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Folks,

I deliberately refuse to spend the extra $2k-$3k for SatNav in my cars. They seem clunky and I always feel they will be outdated within six months of buying a new car.:mad:

So I went with a Garmin Streetpilot C340 about 4 years ago. It is a dinosaur today, so I recently upgraded to the Nuvi 3790LMT. Wow, it is amazing what they have done with electronics in just 4 years. Very impressive.:thumbup:

Anybody else out there using a non-factory installed unit?:dunno:

There is another thread buried on this site that talks about how others have set up their GPS, running the wires behind panels and vents, etc....:confused:

I don't like where the 12volt plug is in our 3 series. I'd like to have at least two options but alas there is just the one in the center console. Problem is when you plug anything in you have to have the wire running out and the lid won't close without forcing down on the cable or plug in.

Any other ideas out there?:dunno:
 

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Is it a plug in, like the lighter? If so that would work much better than the center console.

I'm running out to verify this now. Thanks!:thumbup:

I wouldn't have a clue what it is like in the passenger side of this car, as I won't let anybody else drive it yet! Ha!:rofl:
 

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I have 2 a cheap nuvi 12 something series if I recall correctly and then also a zumo 550 (I also use it on my K1200GT) with an autocom system with BT for my phone and sat radio for tunes while I ride all piped in to custom molded earplugs), grab whichever one is handy when I am leaving in the 335d I hard wired my radar (v-1) in at the overhead light console in front of the moon roof and plug in the gps in the passenger foot well
 

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I use an old TomTom 920 with both North America and Europe maps on the little 1.8" 20GB hard drive. It too is a dinosaur now but has been to France twice and all over the western US. I'll use it 'til it dies.
 

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I started with HK (figure they make good stereos)... piece of junk. Switched to Garmin (bought the 755 or something when it first came out), really like the 3D buildings and proper lane arrows. It is a few years old now and probably in need of an upgrade. I have factory nav in my car, but I always take my Garmin when I travel far (if BMW came out with touch screen it would be a different story).
 

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OK, found the outlet under the passengers left side. Would have never guessed there was one there! Anything in the back seat area?

I just ordered the Garmin Nuvi 3790LMT. I am very impressed with it so far. It was $399.00 at best buy, had it shipped for free.

Easy set up, has bluetooth as well, which I already have in the D, but I move the GPS from car to car.

What I like is it's very thin and light weight, but is loaded with tons of features. It has free lifetime maps and traffic upgrades, at the trade off of getting some BS adds whenever you reach your final destination. But they are rather small and really don't seem to bother me that much. If you turn off the traffic feature it goes away.

Yesterday afternoon it saved me from going my normal route as there was a major traffic back up on the freeway, so I just divereted around it. Pretty cool.

It also shows you posted speedlimits and your own speed side by side, so you can see if you are pushing your luck or not. The BMW speedometer is definitely off by a good 3-4 mph in the 80mph range.

Then it has an ECO mode, which runs parallel to the Nav. Basically you input your city and hwy estimated mpg and the price of fuel and it keeps track of your time, miles driven and accelerations and braking and gives you a report card. Not sure how useful that really is but it is interesting to play with.

I give it two thumbs up.:thumbup::thumbup:
 

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Playing with it some more. Voice command is really pretty good as well.

They also offer a ECORoute HD which plugs into the OBCD and they say they can display multiple engine parameters via bluetooth. So no additional wires

It costs $99.00. Since I can't see things like engine cooling temp, oil temp or pressure, etc... perhaps it is worth looking into this so at least I can see what is going on.

Anybody else on here have this feature?

http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-ecoRoute-Vehicle-Diagnostics-Communicator/dp/B00313JWSO
 

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I've never bought a new car, and most likely, never will - I'll let someone else take the depreciation hit as soon as it drives off the dealer's premises when new!!!

If I ever was in a postion to buy new, depending on my budget, I currently think I would opt for GPS for the re-sale perspective ONLY. Non enthusiast BMW purchasers will 'want' the GPS in the car, and car's without it are deemed less desirable. Over the next few years, this perception 'might' change as more and more people switch to smartphones and realise you can have your phone do GPS for $50 software from the likes of Co-Pilot etc. Currently, this isn't the case. If I didn't have the budget, or limited budget when buying new, I'd opt for other desirable options and get the latest edition of the $50 smartphone software :)

cheers, Dennis!
 

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I have always been happy with Garmin units, going back to the early days of GPS. I got the BMW Nav when I bought my X35d; however, after using it on one trip of several weeks, I've gone back to ignoring the built-in BMW GPS and using my portable Garmin unit instead. The built-in BMW Nav system just has too many map data errors and bad programming.
 

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I've never bought a new car, and most likely, never will - I'll let someone else take the depreciation hit as soon as it drives off the dealer's premises when new!!!

If I ever was in a postion to buy new, depending on my budget, I currently think I would opt for GPS for the re-sale perspective ONLY. Non enthusiast BMW purchasers will 'want' the GPS in the car, and car's without it are deemed less desirable. Over the next few years, this perception 'might' change as more and more people switch to smartphones and realise you can have your phone do GPS for $50 software from the likes of Co-Pilot etc. Currently, this isn't the case. If I didn't have the budget, or limited budget when buying new, I'd opt for other desirable options and get the latest edition of the $50 smartphone software :)

cheers, Dennis!
I think this greatly depends on how long you keep the car for before you are wanting to sell. Although my experience with selling relatively new cars is most potential buyers ignore options that the vehicle has or ignore any value they might add. They repeatedly compare what i am selling to a new base model.

I wish the Escort radar detector/GPS that came out this year or the last worked better. Or had better reviews, I never have used one to judge it but like the idea of combining things into one unit. Currently I am low tech, I use my iPhone.
 

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Folks,

I deliberately refuse to spend the extra $2k-$3k for SatNav in my cars. They seem clunky and I always feel they will be outdated within six months of buying a new car.:mad:

So I went with a Garmin Streetpilot C340 about 4 years ago. It is a dinosaur today, so I recently upgraded to the Nuvi 3790LMT. Wow, it is amazing what they have done with electronics in just 4 years. Very impressive.:thumbup:

Anybody else out there using a non-factory installed unit?:dunno:

Any other ideas out there?:dunno:
Like you, I am too cheap to pay $2K for a nav unit. I have an upper market Garmin for use in the States.

I also have a Nokia N8 phone which comes with OVI [Nokia] maps free for the lifetime of the phone. It is a surprisingly sophisticated system and has maps for over 80 countries available. It is great when travelling. I download the maps that I will need on a trip to cut down foreign data charges. (I get a relatively basic local pay as you go plan when I travel overseas so that I have a local phone number. Data can be a bit high on such plans).

Regards,
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I've noticed that almost no one seems interested in this Garmin Nuvi with Ecoroute HD.

I've posted a picture of the gauge display. You can select which parameter you want displayed in each position.

So far I have been tracking coolant temp, air intake temp, air mass flow, throttle position, engine load, voltage (but removed it as it is a rather benign parameter always at 14.0volts). You can track a few other parameters, like rpm, speed, but I was expecting things like charge air boost pressure, tranny temp, fuel consumption, etc... Maybe there are more data to be mined, still figuring it all out, but so far it is a pretty cool tool.:thumbup:

Nobody out there interested?:dunno:
 

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By the way, I uploaded the 30 day free trial of their red light camera system. So far seems to work pretty good. I knew where one was located in Miami and bingo, about a block out it sounded the bell and indicated "Safety Camera".:eek:

It also pointed out a couple I was not aware of. These cameras are not always out in the open. These guys are tricky.:yikes:

A few of my coleages (sp.) have been burned. Not me!:angel:
 

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He mentioned in this thread or another that it hooks up into the ODBII port. So that is how it would be getting the readings.
 

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There is a dongle that connects to the OBD II Port just inside the driver's door. Remove the cover, plug it in, stick on the double back tape and the dongle clings nicely out of the way along the inside panel by your upper right foot area. I'll post a photo tomorow.

It has blue tooth connectivity with the Nuvi.

You have to upload the Ecoroute HD program onto your Nuvi from your PC, then you are ready to go.

It started working right away after synching the bluetooth signals.

Probably the most value will come in if and when it throws a Check Engine light, supposedly you can read the code, what it means, and even reset it if you like.

Meantime I'm just playing around with all of the different outputs it provides. Speed and RPM are already on the dash, so those don't really do much. Engine cooling temp I have always been curious about. Throttle position I'm not really sure means much. Doing 80mph it says I'm at like 95%, but I know I still have a lot more left, so not really sure about that.

Engine load is given in %. It seems to give some meaningful info, just not sure what it is giving me, perhaps it is really turbo boost which is a pretty good indicator of engine load.

The red light camera warning just sounds a bell and an icon pops on the screen when you get within a block of an intersection that supposedly has a red light camera, based on some National Database. It seems to work.
 
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