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Oh yeah! TunerMotorsports to race E46 325i!!!!

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Mr Paddle.Shift

Discussion Starter · Mar 13, 2002 (Edited)

Oh yeah! TurnerMotorsports to race E46 325i!!!!

Finally!! Some good 325s put to good use!

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· #21 · Mar 13, 2002

atyclb said:
Hey vince--I'm not really a "coupe elitist"--I was just pointing out TD's error

True. You are not one of the 'coupe elitists'. But you do seem to really enjoy dwelling on my mistake. I made my comment about the car in the background being a sedan without even lookinga t it closely. I didn't expect to get this kind of beating for the comment.

If you read my thread at the M-board here where I polled interest in an E46 M3 sedan or wagon, you'll see who the coupe elitists are.

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Mr. The Edge

· #22 · Mar 13, 2002

TD said:
ATTN ALL COUPE ELITISTS (you know who you are)-

NOTICE THAT THESE ARE SEDANS NOT COUPES.

Enough said.

TD--

I think it was just your delivery. You were kind of inviting a backlash after making such a bold statement.

No ill will here.

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Mr Paddle.Shift

Discussion Starter · #23 · Mar 13, 2002

TD and atyclb...please!!

Let's drink up for TMS nonetheless.

. Their first race this Saturday on Speed Channel. Aye!

Also I am sure both of you agree on one thing: U2. Right?? right??

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· #24 · Mar 13, 2002

atyclb said:
TD--

I think it was just your delivery. You were kind of inviting a backlash after making such a bold statement.

No ill will here.

If you read the thread I referenced (and others), there are often very snotty posts made disparaging the idea of a performance sedan. The tone of these posts often sound like direct insults to me (an M3 sedan owner). So my ALL CAPS post was a bit of a backlash itself.

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blackdawg

· #25 · Mar 13, 2002

vince: you're right.

i mean the current 2.5 litre motor, whatever it's called:......s52 dual vanos?

i forget.

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· #26 · Mar 13, 2002

VinceTopasBlau3 said:

So THIS is Bono

?

And THIS is The Edge

?

Sure doesn't look like them to me.

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Mr. The Edge

· #27 · Mar 13, 2002

TD said:
So THIS is Bono

?

And THIS is The Edge

?

Sure doesn't look like them to me.

Bono needs more hair. Edge looks about right though.

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Mr. The Edge

· #28 · Mar 13, 2002

VinceTopasBlau3 said:
U2. Right?? right??

Adam...the always forgotten member

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· #29 · Mar 13, 2002

atyclb said:
Adam...the always forgotten member

I looked for Mr Clayton by himself but could not find him.

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bmw325

· #30 · Mar 13, 2002

You guys didn't mean "S54" instead of "M54" right? S54 is the M3's motor-- and i'm guessing that they Turner didn't build a special 2.5 liter version of this for this racing series.

I'm assuming it is the regular M54-- and I'd love to find our what the specific mods they're making are...

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Jspeed

· #31 · Mar 13, 2002

Here are the vehicle specs from Speed World Challenge web site

http://www.speedvisionwc.com/competitors/vts.html

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Mystikal

· #32 · Mar 14, 2002

Re: Here are the vehicle specs from Speed World Challenge web site

Jspeed said:
http://www.speedvisionwc.com/competitors/vts.html

AH-HA!

Even the race model E46 doesn't use a staggered wheel setup!

Sorry for the irrelevance, but I had to let that out.

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ALEX325i

· #33 · Mar 14, 2002

Re: Re: Here are the vehicle specs from Speed World Challenge web site

Mystikal said:
AH-HA!

Even the race model E46 doesn't use a staggered wheel setup!

Sorry for the irrelevance, but I had to let that out.

I would think so... Staggered wheel setup favors understeer...

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Mystikal

· #34 · Mar 14, 2002

Re: Re: Re: Here are the vehicle specs from Speed World Challenge web site

ALEX325i said:
I would think so... Staggered wheel setup favors understeer...

Exactly, what I'm saying is that no E46, even a high-power race car needs wider rear tires. Just turns down the fun level in the twisties.

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bmw325

· #35 · Mar 14, 2002

Interesting on the specs-- they didn't really modify the car too much in terms of the engine in the driveline. It looks like its a 323 not a 325-- so they're using the M52 engine. It said 2 valves per cylinder-- I assume that's outdated info from the M50 engine used in the e36 325. The torque was higher than stock e46 323- but I think about what the e36 325's specs were. Hard to tell if they're just re-using the e36 driveline in the e46 or if they tuned the e46 engine separately.

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Mystikal

· #36 · Mar 14, 2002

robg said:
Interesting on the specs-- they didn't really modify the car too much in terms of the engine in the driveline. It looks like its a 323 not a 325-- so they're using the M52 engine. It said 2 valves per cylinder-- I assume that's outdated info from the M50 engine used in the e36 325. The torque was higher than stock e46 323- but I think about what the e36 325's specs were. Hard to tell if they're just re-using the e36 driveline in the e46 or if they tuned the e46 engine separately.

M50 had 24 valves total, so it indeed had 4 valves per cylinder.
The torque on the 325 is actually less than the 323

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blackdawg

· #37 · Mar 14, 2002

yep.

i noticed that (with disappointment, too), that the "old" 323 had 170hp/181ft#'s and the new engine obviously switches those two parameters around.

anyway: i think the racing M coupe supercharged is the one that steve dinan runs competitively.

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bmw325

· #38 · Mar 15, 2002

Actually I was referring to the e36 325 engine (M50) which had more torque than the current 325 or 323. I think this might be the engine in the turner motorsports car.

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