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The Maryland suburbs of Wash DC are sprouting stationary photo radar units like weeds. I almost got tagged yesterday (maybe I did but won't know until the ticket arrives in the mail).

Does anyone have experience with the Photoblocker spray paint that is supposed to reflect the flash back into the camera and over-expose the film? Even if this stuff is only 50% effective it is a good investment and it's easy to use. See website:

http://www.photoblocker.com/
 

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Not effective at all, don't waste your money. It has been debunked a number of times by sources ranging from MythBusters to regular news outlets. If you live in a state that has reflectorized license plates, the camera exposures will be set accordingly....
 

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In AZ we have those things for a good long time now. Interestingly enough, the state declared them not legal, and most are now gone. So to answer your question, that isnt going to work on a true radar enforcement. Generally you will get your smiling face pic taken, as well, as your license plate. What you may opt for though is one of these:

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The Maryland suburbs of Wash DC are sprouting stationary photo radar units like weeds. I almost got tagged yesterday (maybe I did but won't know until the ticket arrives in the mail).

Does anyone have experience with the Photoblocker spray paint that is supposed to reflect the flash back into the camera and over-expose the film? Even if this stuff is only 50% effective it is a good investment and it's easy to use. See website:

http://www.photoblocker.com/
If you want to avoid speeding tickets there's a foolproof way: Drive the speed limit. Unless you're driving on un-congested highways / interstates you're not saving much time by speeding. It may feel like it but the reality is you're not going to arrive at your destination much faster.
 

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If you want to avoid speeding tickets there's a foolproof way: Drive the speed limit. Unless you're driving on un-congested highways / interstates you're not saving much time by speeding. It may feel like it but the reality is you're not going to arrive at your destination much faster.
But some of the speed limits are unreasonable. When was the last time you tried driving 25 mph mile-after-mile? That's the default speed limit in the District of Columbia. Maryland is a bit better, generally being 35 mph (which is still slow but tolerable).
 

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I'd recommend getting a good radar detector like the Escort 9000 that uses GPS to tell you where the cameras are.
 

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Your best best is to get one of those clear license plate covers that obscures the plate when viewed at off-axis angles. I'm not sure if these are legal or not in MD, and their effectiveness is highly dependent upon the angle of the photo/speed camera.
 

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But some of the speed limits are unreasonable. When was the last time you tried driving 25 mph mile-after-mile? That's the default speed limit in the District of Columbia. Maryland is a bit better, generally being 35 mph (which is still slow but tolerable).
Doesn't matter if you feel it's reasonable or not. It's the speed limit.

But my point still stands. People who drive over the speed limit tend to be slowed down by those who are doing the speed limit, stop lights, stop signs, etc. When I was younger I used to drive fast. Busting my ass to get around everyone. And you know what I eventually learned? I wasn't getting to my destination faster. I observed, on too many occasions, that no sooner had I shut the door on my vehicle that the person I about killed myself to get in front of driving on by. IOW I saved a few seconds and that was it.

And I know exactly what you're talking about. On my recent trip I was driving highways with 65 MPH speed limits. Then all of a sudden we approached a town where the speed limit went down to 25. Felt like we were crawling. But it was the speed limit. And I doubt blowing through town at 65 MPG would have saved me much time. And these, along with un-congested Interstates, are the only roads where speeding can give you any form of benefit.
 

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If you want to avoid speeding tickets there's a foolproof way: Drive the speed limit. Unless you're driving on un-congested highways / interstates you're not saving much time by speeding. It may feel like it but the reality is you're not going to arrive at your destination much faster.
Speed limits are typically set for the lowest common denominator (i.e. worst driver) -- not even the average driver. The limits are usually set way too low. There is generally nothing magical about the arbitrary limits that are set.

I consistently drive as fast as conditions allow and where I am comfortable -- I rarely even look at the limit signs. It has nothing to do with getting to my destination faster, and has to do with moving at what feels more fun and/or more efficient.

I have had a few speeding tickets in my day. But nothing I can't afford. Well worth it.
 

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But it was the speed limit. And I doubt blowing through town at 65 MPG would have saved me much time. And these, along with un-congested Interstates, are the only roads where speeding can give you any form of benefit.
Its not about saving time (that's not why everyone speeds, even if that is why you did) -- its about not feeling held back or imposed upon or restricted. You could have gone through town at 35 (not 65). If you did 25, you were just a jerk for the people behind you. At least at 35 you are not going way over, but you are moving at a decent rate.

When I walk, I walk as fast as I can. Not to save time, but I like to get where I'm going as efficiently as possible. I hate slow moving people who block the sidewalk. I'm the same way in the car -- its not about saving time. Its about moving without some arbitrary restriction blocking my path - be it other cars, or a sign with a number on it.
 

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The spray does absolutely nothing and the license plate covers are illegal in most if not all states
There are GPS devices you can buy that have a database of Photo Radar and Red Light Camera locations and will warn you when you are approaching one. You have to make sure to keep the database updated which you can do via the internet.

www.navalert.com

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I think there's a reasonable compromise. Here in New England you can go with the flow and be doing about 5 mph over. If you want to feel fast and free, you can probably push it to just under 10 mph over and go right past an LEO without a problem (depending on how his day is going).

Personally, I hope TX manages to pass the 85 mph speed limit they're working on and that the rest of the nation starts to follow their lead. I doubt it will happen everywhere, but it would make driving in Texas more fun anyway. http://www.valleycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=602439
 

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Listen, If you don't photo-radar simply register your car to a spouse, LLC, or a trust. Those three mostly the trust and LLC is impossible for you to get a photo-radar. Like in AZ, we are not required by law to say who was driving so if its registered under an LLC they'll ask who was driving and you said NO IDEA! Thats it. And same goes for a trust, name it anything but your name and they can't send it to you. Good to know the law
 

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Listen, If you don't photo-radar simply register your car to a spouse, LLC, or a trust. Those three mostly the trust and LLC is impossible for you to get a photo-radar. Like in AZ, we are not required by law to say who was driving so if its registered under an LLC they'll ask who was driving and you said NO IDEA! Thats it. And same goes for a trust, name it anything but your name and they can't send it to you. Good to know the law
Most states east of the Missippi will issue the ticket to the owner of the vehicle. West of the Mississippi they need to ticket the driver and there are cameras in front and to the rear of the car. The ticket will be issued to the driver of the car and the driver will be able to protest the ticket and claim that he/she was not the driver. The quality of the images is surprisingly clear and in most cases the driver can easily be identified. Keep in mind that your picture is on your drivers license.

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Speed limits are typically set for the lowest common denominator (i.e. worst driver) -- not even the average driver. The limits are usually set way too low. There is generally nothing magical about the arbitrary limits that are set.
Irrelevant. Regardless of how they're derived, regardless of it they're reasonable or not...they're the speed limit. And exceeding it typically doesn't end in any form of time savings. So why speed?
 

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Its not about saving time (that's not why everyone speeds, even if that is why you did) -- its about not feeling held back or imposed upon or restricted. You could have gone through town at 35 (not 65). If you did 25, you were just a jerk for the people behind you. At least at 35 you are not going way over, but you are moving at a decent rate.
I was a jerk for obeying the speed limit? Sorry, going to have to disagree with you on that one.
 

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Irrelevant. So why speed?
Irrelavant regardless of any time savings. Speeding may be required to flow at even pace with moving traffic. (due to unrealistic spped limits). In AZ 70% of drivers exceed the posted limits. Just a personal observation, not a scientific one. I believe though that 100% of the worst drivers ever, exist in AZ as well.
 

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If you want to avoid speeding tickets there's a foolproof way: Drive the speed limit. Unless you're driving on un-congested highways / interstates you're not saving much time by speeding. It may feel like it but the reality is you're not going to arrive at your destination much faster.
This is the 3 series forums. We like to drive here, and have fun doing it.

Back to the X-whatever forums you came from

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I was a jerk for obeying the speed limit? Sorry, going to have to disagree with you on that one.
I'm glad you obey a sign with numbers -- you are very easily trained. I'm sure you didn't even know that you were the leader in a parade -- most people who go 25 in a 25 zone don't realize they are parade leaders. By the way, in my state, PA, you can't even get a ticket unless you are 10 miles or more over a speed limit of less than 50 (over 50 its 6 miles over). I'm sure its similar in most states. So you could have probably gone 34 and not even been subject to a ticket. So you obeyed a sign for nothing.
 
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