Bob Lutz HATES those moldings and has promised that they will not appear on another new Pontiac. Period.Ackster said:Not a bad looking car. I could never get myself to buy a Pontiac though. I never liked their interiors or the fact that GM always seems to stick those nasty plastic side moldings on all of their model lines. This car doesn't seem to have the moldings. :thumbup: I just wonder how the interior will look.
I hear you. Hopefully, Pontiac won't "bastardize" the car... I mean, chances are the interior (haven't seen pix) is more like the interior of GM cars in Europe and South America. My mother has a 01 Vectra, and I kind of like it.Ackster said:Not a bad looking car. I could never get myself to buy a Pontiac though. I never liked their interiors or the fact that GM always seems to stick those nasty plastic side moldings on all of their model lines. This car doesn't seem to have the moldings. :thumbup: I just wonder how the interior will look.
Do you think the new GTO can run with your current M Coupe/future M3/911 in the twisties? I don't think so... Don't get me wrong. I think the new GTO's a great value and performs beautifully with that LS1 motor, but I doubt it's balanced as well as your current/future cars.blackdawg said:...problem is, now all of us "weeny" bimmerphiles are going to get dusted by nascar types in their schmancy GTOs.
Its about time someone woke up in the GM ranks! To me, the side moldings were the WORST exterior cue on the car.TD said:
Bob Lutz HATES those moldings and has promised that they will not appear on another new Pontiac. Period.
Mostly - if you can put up with the hard ride - it's OK. But certainly not always. On one stretch of road on which we drive all of our test cars, there is a corner from hell. It is a big dipping left-hander, with multiple off-camber bumps that catch the car with the suspension already compressed. And here the Monaro was absolutely lousy. As in, suspension bottoming out several times, the body shaking with the harsh impact and the car being thrown around the road.
I say it's an interesting twist on a typical GM musclecar. It actually looks kind of appealing, but underneath it's still the same old sh!t.Conclusion? Well, the CV8 Monaro will find many happy customers, just as it is. But we think that the car would be a greater success if the suspension and steering distanced itself from the muscle cars of the past and were spec'd with the realisation that not everyone wants to listen to a bellowing V8 as they drive around only on smooth bitumen.
And then we had an eye-opening incident. On the way to a photo shoot location, Monaro filled with PULP, there was an opportunity to, er, line up the Monaro against my own '98 Lexus LS400.
And it was absolutely dead even - nothing in it until about 120 km/h. Nothing at all - not even a car's length either way.
Now the fastest magazine times ever quoted for the Lexus are in the low-mid sevens, and my own timing has confirmed that. And here was the 6-speed 5.7-litre Monaro exactly as fast - well, without doing a tyre-warming burn-out, switching off the traction control to do a harder launch with a trace of wheelspin, and so on.