No help here, but whatever happened with your Euro M3?Mark in TX said:
That's been quite the odyssey. Short version: the particular car I was considering does not have some basic OBD-II stuff in place and is thus very expensive to 'federalize.' While OBD-II is a US govt.-mandated, emissions-related thing and must be retrofitted to all cars (imported for regular road use) built after 1/1/96, some Euro-spec cars have some basic things in place for OBD-II.JST said:
No help here, but whatever happened with your Euro M3?
Once you start getting into the 12.5K range for conversion, you might want to just think about putting a Euro 3.2 into an existing American M3. You'd save the shipping costs and whatnot, though I suppose due to euro/dollar conversion, the "base" price of the Euro car might be lower than it is in the US.Mark in TX said:
That's been quite the odyssey. Short version: the particular car I was considering does not have some basic OBD-II stuff in place and is thus very expensive to 'federalize.' While OBD-II is a US govt.-mandated, emissions-related thing and must be retrofitted to all cars (imported for regular road use) built after 1/1/96, some Euro-spec cars have some basic things in place for OBD-II.
The car I was looking at was built in early '97, before the US M3 cabrios were started. My guess is that late calendar year '97 Euro-spec cabrios probably have the hardware I need for the less expensive conversion process, since US-spec cars would have been on the production line with them at that point. So, I'm still shopping.
FYI: that cabrio I was considering would have been $12.5k for the conversion to US standards, plus the cost of a new cat. Considering that Z8's and Ferrari 355's cost the same for conversion (and low-mi. examples need no new cat), it's a bit hard to justify on a relatively inexpensive car such as a used M3.
But, I do still intend to find something. At this point, I won't have a convertible back in Texas before summer's infernal blast (it's already full-on spring here) but now that there's no hurry, I'll take a week or so to cruise around in Europe before I ship the car for its 'surgery' here in the US. Assuming I ever find one...
I was trying to use bmw.de to see what additional colors they can get on new M3's over there. There is a group of Americans doing a group ED purchase of M3's this summer and a friend of mine is considering it but wanted to see what colors he might be able to get. (They'll do it - at extra cost, of course.) No quantity pricing on the ED, unfortunately.
But I still can't get the bmw.de Configurator to work. Don't even try it w/ Netscape (Mac ver 4.79) - it'll freak out.
I know what you mean and I don't plan to come anywhere near those numbers. Done right, however, a Euro-spec M3 can be purchased, shipped, and converted for well under the price of a similar US-spec car. That's why I'm considering it at all. Even the '97 I found could recoup most of the cost by selling it here, in spite of the horrendous conversion cost.JST said:
if you take what I spent plus 12K for an engine conversion, you're still 10K shy of a new E46 M3C.