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Retrofitting Voice Control through coding

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#1 · (Edited)
Hello,

I'd like to retrofit Voice Control (620). As my car's is fitted with almost every media options except this one, do you think I can get the Voice Control working by adding 620 option to the FA list ? I've read that the Voice Control activation might need a FSC code.

Also, is the "Write FA FP" a safe step ? I mean, can this step mess things up with other existing SVT / CAFD.

Any help appreciated,

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#2 ·
Write FA FP is fine, I have altered my own VO with no problem. Voice Recognition does require an expensive FSC Code though, and if you buy the FSC Code, I'm not sure how to load and activate it using E-Sys.
 
#3 ·
Thanks shawn for your answer. So the Voice Control has not been retrofitted with E-Sys from now :-/. I'll still try to alter my VO and see what I can get from it.

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#5 ·
Hi, i have purchased the Fsc code to activate the voice control for my retrofit nbt. Installed the code without problem but when i pressed the voice control button, it only showed me the voice control icon but never prompt me for followup actions.

before i retrofitted the Nbt, my business system was able to use the voice control so i think all the hardware should be ready.

Are there any other settings i need to do? or which card files i need to modify (other than Hu_Nbt)?

Btw, i only change the VO to include 620 after I inserted the fsc code and not sure this will affect it?? or may be i need to wait 24 hours before the system will be activated???

TIA.
 
#6 ·
Hi, i have purchased the Fsc code to activate the voice control for my retrofit nbt. Installed the code without problem but when i pressed the voice control button, it only showed me the voice control icon but never prompt me for followup actions.

before i retrofitted the Nbt, my business system was able to use the voice control so i think all the hardware should be ready.

Are there any other settings i need to do? or which card files i need to modify (other than Hu_Nbt)?

Btw, i only change the VO to include 620 after I inserted the fsc code and not sure this will affect it?? or may be i need to wait 24 hours before the system will be activated???

TIA.
When you check your FSC Code status, does it show "Accepted"?

Is the FSC Code you used your old one, or a new one for NBT, as they are different, and does the FSC Code VIN match your NBT VIN?
 
#8 · (Edited)
After adding 620, and Importing and Activating the FSC code, what did you VO or FDL Code?

I would try VO Coding NBT, SZL, and Kombi.
 
#10 ·
Ok. Just adding the Option Code to the VO does nothing. The affected ECU's must now be coded based on the modified VO.
 
#11 ·
Hi Shawn,

Before I VO code the files (I am overseas now, so can't do it), do you know the following FSC codes are for what:

1) 1B
2) 24
3) 46
4) 71
5) 88

All these codes are not listed when I use eSys to read. I have only A0,AE,9C,9F,6F,DE,9E listed.

I got these from the person who sell me the FSC codes for 9E and 9C. Other than the 2 codes I purchased, he actually sent me a bunch of codes including those I had already. Thanks.
 
#12 ·
Hi Shawn,

Before I VO code the files (I am overseas now, so can't do it), do you know the following FSC codes are for what:

1) 1B
2) 24
3) 46
4) 71
5) 88

All these codes are not listed when I use eSys to read. I have only A0,AE,9C,9F,6F,DE,9E listed.

I got these from the person who sell me the FSC codes for 9E and 9C. Other than the 2 codes I purchased, he actually sent me a bunch of codes including those I had already. Thanks.
It seems your old Head Unit was a Champ2, and not CIC.

I am not sure on SWID 0071, but the others are:

navigation enabler - 1B
voice input system - 24
navigation application Move - 46
map Europe 2010 Move - 88

The ones now in NBT are:

navigation enabler - DE
voice input system - 9E
navigation application - A0
map Southeast Asia Next 2013 - AE
BMW Apps - 9C
Text To Speech - 9F
Sat Radio - 6F
 
#15 ·
No! Those will not work in NBT, and as I wrote, you already have the equivalent NBT ones Imported and Activated.

When you run check FSC => Check FSC Status, what does it show for AppID 158 (9E) Voice Control? Does it show FSC Status "Accepted"?

Champ2 is the Head Unit for cars with 606 Nav Business as opposed to CIC for cars with 609 Nav Pro.
 
#17 ·
Yes it all show "Accepted".... BTW, do you know what is A4A under HU-NBT because I got and error when I tried to activate this when I adding 6NR?

Without this, my 6NR is working fine but when I do code verification, the system actually ask me to activate A4A.
I have no idea why your Voice Control is not Working.

For 6NR, you have to have 6NR in the VO, Import and Activate 9C FSC Code, and then code:

- CONNECTED_DRIVE = aktiv
- A4A_REMOTE_APPS = aktiv

What exactly is the error you are getting?
 
#19 ·
I meant the Coding Verification screen that is showing you need to Activate 6NR. What exactly does that show?
 
#21 ·
But this is only in the Coding Verification Module? Can you FDL Code NBT from Coding Module?
 
#22 ·
The error only shown when I FDL code NBT from coding module. I checked through the log and this was the error

WDBI_PLAIN returned a negative response with response code conditionsNotCorrect, ; ECU: HU_NBT_63_ETHERNET
severity: ERROR

Never state any reason. I only manage the nailed down the error by eliminating setting one by one.
 
#25 ·
What PSdZData version are you using?

I have seen the [C046] error only one time before, and it was because the user had Frankensteined his PSdZData, adding new CAFD to old PSdZData.
 
#28 ·
If you have HU_NBT, try coding 6NS instead of 6NR. That might be your problem.

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Good thought, but I think you mean 6NS instead of 6NK, as 6NR BMW Apps has nothing to do with Bluetooth nor Voice Control.
 
#29 · (Edited)
I did a coding verification with 6NS, and A4A and A4A_remote_apps will not be active. But I don't know whether BMW Apps will show up or not. Need to test it on the car and I can't because I am overseas now.

Edit: I have removed 6NR replaced with 6NS and I think these 2 are different things. So, I replace 6NK with 6NS and it deactivated a number of features such as WLAN, Bluetooth 2nd HP but it did activate the following which I don't know what is that:

CDMM_AUX_SIMPLE_1
CDMM_AUX_SIMPLE_2
 
#31 ·
My bad, you need to code both 6NR (Apps) & 6NS (Convenience Telephony)... as for Internet, add 6AR (Internet) to the VO. If that doesn't work, try adding 6AK (ConnectedDrive Services) on top of the others, but I don't think you need 6AK in your case.

Have you tried adding 620 to the VO? I've seen cars with Voice Control without 620 in the VO & build sheet, but it was on the ordering guide...
 
#33 ·
I'm thinking there must be software that has to be loaded onto the NBT. It would make sense since the NBT might not be able to store all localization files...


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#34 ·
But the NBT has 200GB storage space... This unit was from bimmerretrofit and they has a options to enable voice control using FSC code. I have contacted them and they want 350CAD just to install the FSC code (not sure include any coding or not). I need them to confirm the voice control will work if I am going to ask them for help.

I think something somewhere is not right that causes the voice control to fail. I am not able to ask the system to read out news from BMW Online although I have the icon beside the news feed. ????
 
#35 ·
You said when you ran Check FSC Status, that for AppID 158 (9E) Voice Control, the Status shown was "Accepted".

So why would you or BimmerRetrofit even be considering Importing and Activating the FSC Code when it is already there and accepted?
 
#36 ·
Don't need to reimport. My question to them is just very general. I was asking them to help in activating the voice control and I have purchased the FSC code elsewhere. So they just replied they will do it with a fee to import the FSC code. They didn't mention whether they need to do any coding thou.
 
#37 ·
Holy Crap!

$350 CND to Import and Activate an FSC Code, which takes about 3 minutes to do? :wow:
 
#39 ·
I guess, but you should be clear to both that you already have a 9E FSC Code Imported and Activated and that it is "Accepted", and you VO Coded NBT with 620, and Voice Control will not work, and what you need from them is only the proper coding. This way you are not paying from something you already have and don't need.
 
#41 · (Edited)
Pardon the NOOB question, but if I want the voice-to-text functionality, based on my car what do I need to buy? Also is it dependent on type of phone (blackberry vs iPhone vs etc?) or options included with the car?

thanks
For a MY 2013 F10 with NBT Head Unit (assumes car with 609 Navigation Professional), Speech-To-Text should be standard functionality. I do not know about the requirements for the handset though.