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Has anyone seen an F15 side by side on the road with their E70 ? :dunno:

While on the freeway, I just saw a new white BMW SAV ahead of me while driving my white E70, thinking it was an X3, but when I caught up I finally saw the rear badge, it was the F15 X5.

First thing I noticed was the rear looked like an X3 - smaller profile, narrow looking, and the bumper trim was similar to the X3. Then I noticed while passing the F15, the side profile looked smaller than my E70 plus the front looked like a Lexus R350. :dunno:

I guess I felt pretty good when the F15 driver tried to outpace my E70 so when I pressed the accelerator, my diesel pulled out quickly with a growl that showed the F15 (S drive 35i) who was the muscle torque boss on the freeway... ;)

Gotta love our E70s - the last of the muscle SAVs with true hydraulic steering... :thumbup:
 

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Agree, they look similar to the X3, probably because of all the black trim over the white. Most of it will probably get painted during LCI refresh similarly to the E70. I am loving the E70 and even more so after driving it through the only two Sierra snow storms of the season. Long term keeper if all the mechanicals hold up.


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not jealous of its looks in the least

interior would be another matter
 

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The Interior is in a different league entirely, love it. The exterior is meh, looks like the pre LCI X3....
 

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Has anyone seen an F15 side by side on the road with their E70 ? :dunno:

While on the freeway, I just saw a new white BMW SAV ahead of me while driving my white E70, thinking it was an X3, but when I caught up I finally saw the rear badge, it was the F15 X5.

First thing I noticed was the rear looked like an X3 - smaller profile, narrow looking, and the bumper trim was similar to the X3. Then I noticed while passing the F15, the side profile looked smaller than my E70 plus the front looked like a Lexus R350. :dunno:

I guess I felt pretty good when the F15 driver tried to outpace my E70 so when I pressed the accelerator, my diesel pulled out quickly with a growl that showed the F15 (S drive 35i) who was the muscle torque boss on the freeway... ;)

Gotta love our E70s - the last of the muscle SAVs with true hydraulic steering... :thumbup:
I am not saying I disagree with you on the rear end of the new X5.. because similar thing happened to me while a F15 was ahead of me and I thought it was a X3 at first glance. IN my area F15 is very common now.

But the rest of your post sounds like you are just hating on it because you are jealous.. not because it looks better than your E70 but because its a newer design and the fact that it makes the E70 look somewhat outdated. :dunno: I like the E70 design better than the F15 but I can see how the E70 looks outdated now when I drive next to a F15 side by side.

I personally am not fond of the new X5 but I don't see any reasons to hate on it. If you don't like it then keep your E70 until it falls apart and look for another E70 like the E39 ( 5 series ) crowds do. :thumbup: or until the next generation X5 debuts.
 

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I have to confess that I did not like the E70 at all when it came out. Looked bloated compared to the great design and just right size of first gen. I still feel it's larger than what I need 99% of the time, but I had to have the diesel and it is super comfy for my weekly 3.5 hour drives.


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I have owned almost every model of BMW since 1990. AND EVERY MODEL CHANGE elicits the same response from the outgoing model owners - "OMG what a horrible new design", "OMG it's so bloated". "OMG it's lost its magic", blah blah blah blah.
Fortunately BMW forges ahead and we get the benefit of more modern, better handling, safer vehicles every time they change the model year.

After the CPO warranty on my E70 expires we will DEFINITELY get a F15. It's more modern, looks better, and overall, a superlative SAV to the outgoing model. To say otherwise is to just dwell in the past.
 

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I have owned almost every model of BMW since 1990. AND EVERY MODEL CHANGE elicits the same response from the outgoing model owners - "OMG what a horrible new design", "OMG it's so bloated". "OMG it's lost its magic", blah blah blah blah.
Fortunately BMW forges ahead and we get the benefit of more modern, better handling, safer vehicles every time they change the model year.

After the CPO warranty on my E70 expires we will DEFINITELY get a F15. It's more modern, looks better, and overall, a superlative SAV to the outgoing model. To say otherwise is to just dwell in the past.
This is true to a certain extent.. in my case I had a 2007 525i.. the drive was perfect.. steering felt solid. My next car was a 535i sport.... same solid steering response and feel. Even better with the sport button pressed.

My next car I went with the E70 because the F10 was horrendous on looks and driving. I stuck with BMW because I love the way it drives.. Even in a SUV.

Now that all BMW's moving forward has the electric steering I am not so sure what my next move will be.
 

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All the F body model looks similar and boring. Saw the idrive screen of the new X at the dealership, looks like Thor hammered an ipad into the dash. Anyways, no more bmw for me. Drives great but quality is junk, don't know what's the fuss about "German quality" is about. My next vehicle is a Toyota 4everRunner:)
 

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Am not jealous, as a matter of fact, I had an opportunity to get the F15 at the same time I was looking for the X5.
Just did not like the electric steering on the F15.

My post was meant to show that from a distance, the F15 exterior design was smaller in stature that the E70.
Yes, I have heard it all from the time the Bangle took various designs - especially the 528/535 line and "Bangleized" it.
But over time that design was accepted.

I know the F15 will take awhile to catch on, but looking like an X3 just makes the design look dated & cheap….

Maybe by the time I turn in the E70, I will see a much better LCI version F15***8230;..
 

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I have owned almost every model of BMW since 1990. AND EVERY MODEL CHANGE elicits the same response from the outgoing model owners - "OMG what a horrible new design", "OMG it's so bloated". "OMG it's lost its magic", blah blah blah blah.
Fortunately BMW forges ahead and we get the benefit of more modern, better handling, safer vehicles every time they change the model year.

After the CPO warranty on my E70 expires we will DEFINITELY get a F15. It's more modern, looks better, and overall, a superlative SAV to the outgoing model. To say otherwise is to just dwell in the past.
The current gen X3 is a huge improvement over the old one but the emo-face that is the rear is still its downfall. The F15 went and copied it and it's basically a bigger emo-face. It's not going to be a positive thing if it was ugly to begin with. Personal opinions.
 

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I have owned almost every model of BMW since 1990. AND EVERY MODEL CHANGE elicits the same response from the outgoing model owners - "OMG what a horrible new design", "OMG it's so bloated". "OMG it's lost its magic", blah blah blah blah.
Fortunately BMW forges ahead and we get the benefit of more modern, better handling, safer vehicles every time they change the model year.

After the CPO warranty on my E70 expires we will DEFINITELY get a F15. It's more modern, looks better, and overall, a superlative SAV to the outgoing model. To say otherwise is to just dwell in the past.
You are correct that every model change elicits a negative response from many outgoing model owners. Even the E46 had its critics among the E36 crowd. That doesn't alter the fact that most of the Bangle era cars were ugly, inside and out. The E70 marked the end of the ugly period IMHO. For an SUV it is quite good looking. The current Z4 is beautiful IMHO.

I think the current F chassis cars are a huge improvement over the Bangle era cars in the looks dept. It's such a pity most of them aren't any fun to drive (largely due to numb steering). The E60 and E90 provided a great driving experience.

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You are correct that every model change elicits a negative response from many outgoing model owners. Even the E46 had its critics among the E36 crowd. That doesn't alter the fact that most of the Bangle era cars were ugly, inside and out. The E70 marked the end of the ugly period IMHO. For an SUV it is quite good looking. The current Z4 is beautiful IMHO.

I think the current F chassis cars are a huge improvement over the Bangle era cars in the looks dept. It's such a pity most of them aren't any fun to drive (largely due to numb steering). The E60 and E90 provided a great driving experience.

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OMG. 10 effing yrs after Bangle introduced the E60 - people are STILL expressing it was a mistake? Do you realize that design is purely subjective, and for every BMW lover that hated the Bangle design (I did too), there were 10 others that loved it? That the E60 5 series outsold the E class 3 to 1? You write "the fact that most of the Banle era cars were ugly, inside and out" - You can have YOUR opinion that it was ugly, but it doesn't mean that it was a failure in design - because guess what, the public votes with their purchasing power - which makes your statement an opinion, NOT a fact.

I'm crabby - need my scotch. :thumbup:
 

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OMG. 10 effing yrs after Bangle introduced the E60 - people are STILL expressing it was a mistake? Do you realize that design is purely subjective, and for every BMW lover that hated the Bangle design (I did too), there were 10 others that loved it? That the E60 5 series outsold the E class 3 to 1? You write "the fact that most of the Banle era cars were ugly, inside and out" - You can have YOUR opinion that it was ugly, but it doesn't mean that it was a failure in design - because guess what, the public votes with their purchasing power - which makes your statement an opinion, NOT a fact.

I'm crabby - need my scotch. :thumbup:
haha, had two people stop and ask about my E63 on a recent trip from Bay Area to San Diego. One thought it was new and was stalking me in the lobby of the hotel. He was waiting for me to come down to move the car from the registration parking area after I took my luggage to the room. I know that design is not everyone's cup of tea, but I think it's aging well and I really like the 3/4 front view with concave sport wheels. On top of that it's a fantastic road trip car for one or two people.
 
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