jeremyclark said:pps - how did you install the tilt sensor in your wagon? I have a xiT as well and was looking at the instructions and it seems that in our cars there is the rear windshield water tank where the sensor usually goes. I haven't found any pictures or illustrations that show where I'm to put it. any tips? other posters have said it was a pain to install, but you indicate it is pretty easy.
pps-325xit said:Back in 2001 when I bought the sport wagon, heard many complained how you had to remove a lot of trim to get to the tilt sen sor location. I've pasted a Roadfly post that I copied at the time below:
I own a 323iT in which I installed the factory alarm. The rear tilt sensor install is 99% of the job. Unless you are very comfortable in removing and replacing LOTS of interior trim, I wouldn't advise you to do it.
The sensor actually mounts inside the rear mounting bracket of the right rear (passenger side) speaker enclosure. You must remove the metal bracket from the sensor, and it will slide into a recess in the bracket designed for the purpose.
That's the easy part. The hard part is removing all the trim necessary to get at it. This includes the trim from the rear window, the trim from the right side of the lift door opening, the right rear anchor for the horizontal seat back brace, the right rear seat back, and about 50 various size philips head, torx head cap screws, and various plastic anchors the likes of which you've probably never seen. You also must remove the speaker itself from the speaker housing to get at a mounting screw inside the enclosure so that you can remove the enclosure from the car.
If all goes well, and you don't break something, the job will take you about 1-1/2 hours. Just as likely, you will drive your half-disassembled new sport wagon off to the dealer and ask them please to complete the job, which they will do for about the same price as if they had done the whole job to begin with, plus whatever pieces you broke, which won't be in stock and will be on back order for months.
Mind you, this did not happen to me. I did get the job done and learned a lot about how BMW trim goes together. But I'd rather eat monkey poop than do it again.
jeremyclark said:thanks for the replies. The reason I was looking into the alarm is that four days ago I had my Honda Accord stolen from right in front of my house in the middle of the night. It didn't have an alarm, just normal locks, the the crooks forced the windows down, unlocked the doors, then tore out the ignition and started it with a screwdriver. I found the car two days later parked six blocks from my house and the cops came and filed a report, etc. In that case, I regretted not having an alarm (or at least a Club or something) as a deterrant, as I definitely would have woken up had it gone off. Granted, I agree with what you're saying in that the BMW would be harder to break into, plus they wouldn't be able to drive off with it (though I'm not sure what would happen if they tear out the ignition altogether!). My wagon was parked in my driveway the same night they stole my Honda, and my theory is they knew how to steal a Honda and may have seen my blinking red lights on the rear view mirror and radio and decided it wasn't worth it.
jeremyclark said:Taking off all of the trim doesn't sound to exicting for me, I'm always afraid I'm going to mess something up in the process. And I know how tough some of those parts are to remove since I watched (read: "helped") an installer install an ice>link wire from the cd changer area to the front of the car. It might not be worth it then, I agree.
Plus another reason I was thinking not to install it is that my lab puppy will be travelling with me in the back of the wagon a lot, and if I run into a store and leave the dog in the car, won't the motion sensors and tilt sensor set it off? Is it possible to lock it without arming the alarm?
Caesar said:Ahh, but that's exactly why you don't need an alarm with your BMW.
1. coded driveaway protection won't allow it to be stolen with a screwdriver or any other ignition starting mechanism -- other than the encoded key.
2. My BMW, though lacking an alarm, has the red "clown nose" on the mirror blink red when the car is locked. This feature, if not set already, can be set by your dealer.
Lock your car and wait 30 seconds or so -- if your clown nose doesn't blink -- take it to your dealer to have it set right.
So you get the same blinking red light "alarm" deterrant, AND physical theft prevention -- WITHOUT an actual noise making alarm.
Again -- so why is an alarm needed?
adc said:Someone can tow your car away with far less fuss than breaking and entering. That's what the tilt sensor is for.
My insurance gives me about $50/year discount for having an alarm, so it will pay for itself in about 5 years. I intend to keep the car at least 2 years longer than that.
Also, it is simply not worth the hassle to deal with an insurance company for a stolen vehicle, then go through the process of finding a similar vehicle to buy, or adding a considerable amount to buy new etc.
For what? A $250 one-time cost that can potentially save you all that... I say it's definitely worth it.
If it's not to you, I understand. But please don't discourage others from this - because you will not be there to help them if their car gets broken into or stolen. :dunno:
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Caesar said:As far as insurance discounts, the BMW gets plenty for the passive anti-theft already included (or you should -- check with your insurer). You may be getting nothing extra for the added noise maker.
stangmatt66 said:.......... I don't want to stare at the lights, which I might not be able to see in bright sunlight.....
Rob V said:Wow, where are you parking? The sun? :rofl: just kidding. But if you can't see your lights flashing then that would mean that no one else on the road probably can't either. That would be illegal, wouldn't it?