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Selling my 5er...for an 07 335xi sedan....

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Am wading through the info on this car, but there seem to be many more variations of the e9X series as compared to what I am used to researching for my current e39 540i-6.

Some questions if you all don't mind, or can help point me in the right direction as to the specific vehicle I'm looking at--comments as to price, reliability (esp. as to twin turbos), alternatives to run-flats, opt for extended warranty? etc, would be VERY appreciated!

The Car: 2007 335xi 6-speed sedan. Premium and Cold Weather packages (no Nav, which is fine--my phone nav is superior anyway), 78k miles. Price: $22K. Hopefully pics are attached below. This car is currently being reserved at CarMax (shipping locally from another store in another state). Seems to be a good deal, perhaps not a great one no? It should be here in a few days. I have a buyer for my 540i at $5400 and plan to pay the rest up front if I like it. Drove a 328xi of same year for comparison in the meantime (automatic though), and I like the feel and fit of the newer 3's. Actually seems to have more room inside than my e39. Thinking I should get the warranty, as the amount of tech in the car, that I'm unfamiliar with, worries me! After almost 7 years maintaining my e39 I feel that I'm a master mechanic by now...but specifically to the e39. There is no comparison to what I see in this car.

I'll continue my research but if there are any glaring issues for this particular vehicle that I should be aware of, please clue me in to the issue and I'll research further. Thanks Bimmer dudes and dudettes! You have been awesome to me for the past several years and I'm excited to move on to a newer bimmer.

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That's my car :) 07 premium package, 6 speed manual, black exterior, tan interior...one thing I regret is not waiting to find one with the premium and sports package. Completely not necessary however, I love my 335xi.
That 540i is a great car!

The price range ... I recently looked at what is being offered here in NJ and for that $$ you should be able to pick up a CPO from a dealer. I always like having that type of coverage, Having said that the E9x series have been very reliable. The 335 turbo cars, the HPFP seems to be behind us and BMW will warrenty this part through 120K miles I believe. In general the line has been more reliable than the E46.

The RFTs, not a big deal. I will be swapping out mine for go flats this winter (I run dedicated snows so this is a good time to swap out the summer tires). Going with Hankooks.

If you want a manual those are hard to find, but not impossable, they are out there.

My vote is wait for a CPO.
Thanks for the input. I do love my 540i-6 very much. But going through a separation now and looking to make some sweeping changes. My 5er is never good in bad weather, and I will no longer have the option of driving my 4wd Chevy, and the 5er is getting on in years, though I have kept it running perfectly well. I need something a bit more reliable, and good in all weather, newer, but just as much fun. After looking around a bit, I think the 335ix-6 is just about the most perfect model for what I'm looking for.
Its not a good price. Just want to be honest. No offence

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Am wading through the info on this car, but there seem to be many more variations of the e9X series as compared to what I am used to researching for my current e39 540i-6.

Some questions if you all don't mind, or can help point me in the right direction as to the specific vehicle I'm looking at--comments as to price, reliability (esp. as to twin turbos), alternatives to run-flats, opt for extended warranty? etc, would be VERY appreciated!

The Car: 2007 335xi 6-speed sedan. Premium and Cold Weather packages (no Nav, which is fine--my phone nav is superior anyway), 78k miles. Price: $22K. Hopefully pics are attached below. This car is currently being reserved at CarMax (shipping locally from another store in another state). Seems to be a good deal, perhaps not a great one no? It should be here in a few days. I have a buyer for my 540i at $5400 and plan to pay the rest up front if I like it. Drove a 328xi of same year for comparison in the meantime (automatic though), and I like the feel and fit of the newer 3's. Actually seems to have more room inside than my e39. Thinking I should get the warranty, as the amount of tech in the car, that I'm unfamiliar with, worries me! After almost 7 years maintaining my e39 I feel that I'm a master mechanic by now...but specifically to the e39. There is no comparison to what I see in this car.

I'll continue my research but if there are any glaring issues for this particular vehicle that I should be aware of, please clue me in to the issue and I'll research further. Thanks Bimmer dudes and dudettes! You have been awesome to me for the past several years and I'm excited to move on to a newer bimmer.
What's the -6 mean? 540i's an 8 cyl, no?

2009+, improvements were made; reliability enhanced. Overall, N54 models doing very, very well.

The classics apply:

  • Don't buy sight-unseen
  • Do a PPI with a mech you respect & trust
  • CPO is preferred
....my current e39 540i-6.

The Car: 2007 335xi

This car is currently being reserved at CarMax (shipping locally from another store in another state)
Although it may not be "good", it's what cars.com and others seem to think is a fair asking price.
Its not a good price. Just want to be honest. No offence
540i-6 is a six-speed manual. BMW center is directly accross the street from CarMax--they just don't have good prices on the one I want, which is unsurprising. Will shell out a few hundred for a clean sweep prior to purchase.
What's the -6 mean? 540i's an 8 cyl, no?

2009+, improvements were made; reliability enhanced. Overall, N54 models doing very, very well.

The classics apply:

  • Don't buy sight-unseen
  • Do a PPI with a mech you respect & trust
  • CPO is preferred
CarMax has 5-day no-questions return of vehicle policy and a standard 1 month bumper to bumper. A good outfit to buy from, so they often price a bit higher than other lots, but a good bit lower than CPO even though at least they claim to inspect, detail and approve cars similarly. They do offer an extended warranty which I may get just in case. The price is definitely in the range for this vehicle offered on Cars and AutoTrader, but yes there are better. Will know more after I test drive and have inspected. Glad this model is holding up well so far!
My recommendation when it comes to warranties is to read them thoroughly before buying a vehicle and the warranty. Pay particular attention to what is and is not covered. It's been my experience and observation the power trains on BMWs are solid and will give many trouble free miles / years of operation. It's the smaller, but still costly, stuff which tends to break and might not be covered. Take the navigation (yes, I know this car does not have it) as an example. If it breaks will the warranty cover it? Many do not.
CarMax has 5-day no-questions return of vehicle policy and a standard 1 month bumper to bumper. A good outfit to buy from, so they often price a bit higher than other lots, but a good bit lower than CPO even though at least they claim to inspect, detail and approve cars similarly. They do offer an extended warranty which I may get just in case. The price is definitely in the range for this vehicle offered on Cars and AutoTrader, but yes there are better. Will know more after I test drive and have inspected. Glad this model is holding up well so far!
30 days used car warranty an industry standard since the 1930's. >IF< if breaks, they fix it. That's a good bet for the seller but slim pickin's for the buyer. Thus, CPO greatly superior.

Barring grievous malfunction or unqualified buyer, car's very unlikely to be returned within 5 days.

That PPI is a mighty good thing, CPO or no.
CarMax has 5-day no-questions return of vehicle policy and a standard 1 month bumper to bumper. A good outfit to buy from, so they often price a bit higher than other lots, but a good bit lower than CPO even though at least they claim to inspect, detail and approve cars similarly. They do offer an extended warranty which I may get just in case. The price is definitely in the range for this vehicle offered on Cars and AutoTrader, but yes there are better. Will know more after I test drive and have inspected. Glad this model is holding up well so far!
Snow tires on the 540i should make it a winter driver, no?
Here is what the extended warranty covers, through 125k miles (has 88k) or 7 years (probably 3 years value for me), at $100 deductible, for about $1800 for the plan; I think I will opt for this.....:

What MaxCare covers
MaxCare provides comprehensive mechanical protection. To find out more about what's covered, click on the categories below. To find out what MaxCare doesn't cover, click here.


1. Engine
Gasoline Engine - Cylinder block, and all internal lubricated parts including: crank shaft, rod and main bearings, cam bearings, expansion (freeze) plugs, connecting rods, wrist pins, pistons, piston rings, camshaft, cam tower, lifters, cylinder head, valves and guides, valve springs, rocker arms (cam followers), pushrods, timing chain housing (cover), timing chain and sprockets, timing belt and pulleys, timing belt tensioner, intake and exhaust manifolds, exhaust manifold cover, flywheel, balance shafts, harmonic balancer and retainer bolt, crank shaft pulley, valve covers, idle speed control, fuel pressure regulator, barometric pressure sensor, oxygen sensor, throttle position sensor, mass air flow sensor, idle air control solenoid, oil pan, oil pump and pressure relief valve, oil cooler, oil temperature sensor, air cleaner assembly, engine oil cooler hoses, oil filter adapter/housing, engine oil sending unit, motor mounts, water pump, water temperature sensor, temperature sending unit, thermostat and housing, fuel supply pump, fuel pump control unit, fuel tank sensor, vacuum pump, vacuum control valve, vacuum switch, positive crankcase ventilation valve, dipstick and tube, seals and gaskets, fasteners for the components listed above.
Turbocharged/Supercharged/Rotary/Diesel/Enhanced Engines - All of the above listed parts or equivalent plus: turbocharger, waste gate controller, intercooler, hard lines, compressor, clutch and pulley, bypass valve, injection pump, diesel injection tube, pump gear, tensioner pulley, timing belt and injection timing control, lines and nozzles, seals and gaskets.
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2. Transmission
Automatic - Case and all internal lubricated parts including: oil pump, valve body, torque converter, vacuum modulator, governor, main shaft, clutches, bands, drums, gear sets, bearings, bushings, sealing rings, TV cable, solenoids and electronic shift control unit, transmission front cover, transmission mounts, cooler, cooler hoses and hard lines, automatic transmission control unit, parking pawl, range select lever, dipstick and tube, seals and gaskets, fasteners for the components listed above.
Standard - Case and all internal lubricated parts including: main shaft, gear sets, shift forks, synchronizers, bearings, bushings, seals and gaskets, fasteners for the components listed above.
Transfer Case - (4X4 vehicles) - Case and all internal lubricated parts including: main shaft, gear sets, chain and sprockets, bearings, bushings, mounts, transfer relay, interlock control unit, seals and gaskets, fasteners for the components listed above, electronic and vacuum engagement components.
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3. Front Wheel Drive
Front Wheel Drive - Final drive housing and all internal parts including: carrier case, gear sets, chain and sprockets, bearings, bushings, axle shafts, constant velocity joints and boots, universal joints, front hub bearings, locking hub assemblies (4X4), drive shaft support, rear axle hub bearings, seals and gaskets, fasteners for the components listed above.
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4. Brakes
Brakes - Master cylinder, assist booster, wheel cylinders, combination valve, disc brake calipers (and rear caliper actuators), caliper yoke, front baffle plate, back plate, adjuster assembly, level indicator, load sensing valve, anti-skid sensor assembly, rotor assembly sensor, hard lines and fittings, backing plates, springs, clips and retainers, self-adjusters, parking brake linkage and cables, rear cable adjuster, seals and gaskets, fasteners for the components listed above.
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5. Electrical System
Electrical - Alternator, voltage regulator, distributor cap, rear window defroster, speedometer cable, head lamp relay assembly, horn relay, ignition relay, head lamp dimmer relay assembly, interlock emergency switch, fuse block, flasher unit and relay, seat belt warning timer, retractable head lamp motor assembly, wiper arm, rear wiper arm, reverse lamp assembly, clock, windshield wiper motors and delay controller, wiper washer tanks (front/rear), starter motor and drive, starter solenoid, wiring harnesses, manually operated switches (such as turn signal, headlight, dimmer, and wiper switches), and mechanically actuated switches (ignition, brake light, and neutral safety switch), cruise control system, power seat motor(s) and transmission(s), power window motor(s) and power regulator(s), power door lock actuators, power trunk release actuator, and power antenna motor.
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6. Electronic System
Electronic - Digital and analog instrument display(s), compass and thermometer display(s), low fuel sensor, low coolant sensor, low oil sensor, electronic rear view mirrors, keyless entry system, electronic fuel injection systems (specifically sensors, pressure regulators, fuel rails, injectors, seals and gaskets), electronic fuel pump, electronic ignition module, distributor and coil, engine management control unit, power window regulator, alarm units, power units and sensors, knock sensor and oxygen sensor, electronic air suspension compressor.
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7. Rear Wheel Drive
Rear Wheel Drive - Drive axle housing and all internal lubricated parts including: carrier case, gear sets, bearings, bushings, limited slip clutch pack, axle shafts, axle hub bearings, propeller shafts, universal joints, drive shaft support, front axle hub bearings, rear cover 4WD, select switch, rear cover, differential case, control lever boot and socket, seals and gaskets, fasteners for the components listed above.
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8. Steering System
Steering - Housing/case and all internal lubricated parts including: rack and pinion valve assembly, sector shaft, rack mounts and cushions, inner rod ends and bellows boots, speed sensor or steering gear equipped pitman arm and valve assembly, sealing rings, bearings, bushings, pitman arm, center link, tie rods, idler arm, power steering pump and pulley, fluid reservoir, pressure and return hoses, cooler and hard lines, power cylinder assembly, steering wheel, horn button assembly, steering gear arm, steering damper, steering lock, steering upper and lower collars, tilt lever, pump reservoir tank and tank cap, steering main and intermediate shafts, coupling, seals and gaskets, fasteners for the components listed above.
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9. Cooling System
Cooling System - Thermostat housing, fan blade, thermostat, radiator cap, radiator shroud, reservoir tank/bracket, thermal switch, coolant temperature sensor, radiator fan relay, blower motor timer.
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10. Front Suspension
Suspension - Steering angle sensor, front coil/leaf springs, MacPherson struts (includes upper mount and pivot bearing assembly), rear coil/leaf springs, upper and lower control arms, torque arm, adjustable shock support, bump stop cushions, control arm shafts, torsion bar mounts and bushings, tension rod, bushing and bracket, panhard rod, upper and lower ball joints including: dust boots, steering knuckle (spindle), wheel bearings and seals, stabilizer shaft, stabilizer linkage including: mounts and bushings, strut rods and bushings, king pins, rear strut assembly, rear stabilizer, seals and gaskets, fasteners for the components listed above.
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11. Interior Assemblies and Controls
Interior - Seat belt control unit, seat belt power unit, seat belt slide assembly, seat belt limit switch, air pump, slide assembly (power seat), lift assembly (power seat), automatic transmission range indicator.
Assemblies & Controls - Accelerator pedal, bell crank assembly, 4WD skid guard, hood hinge, lock and lock cable, seat belt anchor stay, fueling stopper assembly, front door hinge and lock, lock knob rod, remote control rod, lock striker and knob, lock cylinder, front outside handle, handle rod, front inside handle, front window regulator; Rear door hinge and lock assembly, remote control rod, lock striker, rear outside handle, handle rod, rear inside handle, rear window regulator, regulator handle, slide door lock assembly; Side window control assembly, remote control rod, side window control cable, regulator wire, slide door roller, slide door link, deck lid lock striker, lid opener cable, deck lid lock, trunk opener solenoid, deck lid hinge, deck lid torsion bar, back door lock and handle.
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12. Air Conditioning
Air Conditioning - Relay, control, vacuum control switch, thermistor, compressor and mounting brackets, clutch and pulley, condenser, evaporator, orifice tube, POA valve, accumulator, temperature control programmer, radiator fan control amplifier, solenoid valve, automatic climate control sensors, shift actuator valve, power servo, acceleration cut timer, RPM sensor, high/low pressure cutoff switches, high/low pressure hoses, pressure cycling switch, thermostat, drier, temperature control head, o-ring seals, gaskets, fasteners for the components listed above, refrigerant if necessary (in conjunction with the repair of the components listed above).
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What MaxCare doesn't cover
The following are not covered under your agreement:

Manufacturer's maintenance items including services and parts described in your owner's manual.
Other normal maintenance services and parts including engine tune-up (includes spark plugs, glow plugs, ignition wires, distributor cap and rotor), carburetor, throttle body assembly (except injectors), batteries, filters, lubricants or fluids, air-conditioning refrigerant, engine coolant, all hoses and belts (not specifically listed), wiper blades, brake pads and shoes, brake rotors and drums, suspension alignment, tires, wheel covers, wheel rims, wheels, wheel balancing, shock absorbers, exhaust system, friction clutch disc and pressure plate, and clutch throw out bearing.
Glass, glass framework, fastening adhesives, sealed beam head lamps, light bulbs, lenses, trim, moldings, bright metal, upholstery, vinyl and convertible tops, paint, sheet metal, bumpers, alignment of body parts, flexible body parts, door panels, body panels, structural framework, structural welds, and removable hardtop assemblies.
After market accessories, unless it is a CarMax-approved, vendor installed accessory purchased through CarMax at the time of vehicle purchase, or non-original equipment, components and systems not installed by the manufacturer, examples include: anti-theft systems, radar detectors, CB radios, radio/speaker equipment, telephones, cruise control and sun roof.
Solar powered devices, telephones, TV/VCR and related components (unless it is a CarMax-approved, vendor installed accessory purchased through CarMax at the time of vehicle purchase), appliances.
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CarMax utilizes several administrators for MaxCare extended service plans ("MaxCare"), including Consumer Program Administrators, Inc., Automotive Warranty Services of Florida, Inc. (Florida License No. 60023), Motor Warranty Services of North America and CNA National Warranty Corporation, Inc. You should consult your contract documents for specific information about the MaxCare administrator and insurer of your ESP agreement. CarMax is not a party to any MaxCare agreements.
Hi there, I got my BMW from a Carmax, and I purchased the warranty. If I'm not mistaken, our moderator here picked up his M3 from there as well, but I doubt he picked up the warranty. When you say "probably 3 years" of warranty, I'd double check that, because the way it worked for me was that it starts from the day of purchase (it's possible it's different there, btw Carmax started in your state, by the people who ran Circuit City in its glory days). I paid about the same, and I'm good through the summer of 2015. My factory warranty expired last year, btw. I fully assume it will be a total waste of money, but POM is nice for me. I had only the day of purchase to decide if I wanted their warranty; I can have the remainder refunded pro-rated at any time, whether today, the last day, day of sale, whenever. If I sell the car, I could offer the buyer the warranty, or of course sell it instead. If I wanted to refund the warranty within the first 30 days, it would be 100% back (since the first 30 are free anyway).

In my experiences over gosh knows how long, their cars were in better condition than CPOs, with lower miles, with an at-the-time-superior-warranty, for thousands less. Their warranty allows you to take your car wherever you damn please, and that includes any BMW dealership. It's not like I didn't try with CPOs; I think I amassed double digit BMW dealer cards!

I did try the private party market a bit, but didn't have much luck. The closest I got tempted with was a black/black, somewhat modified, with an option to buy aftermarket wheels, but the price wasn't any less, and I was you know, wondering. If, like rubberismoney, I could make a brand new car from a totaled complete pretzel of a strewn mess, yeah I'd probably think the price is too much as well, but I can tell you that is extremely easy for him to say. This said, I'd look towards lower miles as a preference, but I don't know your budget, and you could be waiting a while.

It was hard for me to find "the one", as MTs really are rare, but if you have to narrow it down to an XI as well, well good luck to you!

I got talked into the warranty by a couple of friends. It paid itself over multiple times on a Golf, and another friend's mom had a steering wheel replaced, stories like that which were told to me in person. But like I said, I fully expect it to be a waste of money.

Tires, there are many threads, a couple of the more popular AS tires could be made by Michelin and Conti. Of course there are those who want their summers, and might have two sets of wheels.

I've driven a stick E39 silver 540i with BBS basket weaves before, great car, and from what I remember, the "feel" of the MT will be very different with the E9x (I prefer the latter, it's more sporty IMO). I don't remember, but don't think, that the E39s came with a CDV installed (though I'm sure you would know), and you can run a quick search for the variety of comments/opinions on that.
Some questions if you all don't mind, or can help point me in the right direction as to the specific vehicle I'm looking at--comments as to price, reliability (esp. as to twin turbos), alternatives to run-flats, opt for extended warranty? etc, would be VERY appreciated!
Thanks for the input and comment--very appreciated! The warranty is actually for 7 years or 125K miles on the car. As the car has I think 88K right now, I'm figuring about 3 years value to me before hitting the mileage marker. I'm still on the fence with the ext warranty, but as I'm a bit leary of a possible catastrophic event occurring with the turbos in particular, I may opt for it for peace of mind as you say. I had a turbo blow on my old Ford TBird TurboCoupe...and that sucked. Of course, different car and technology, but I've been there before.... I may opt for the $300 per visit deductible variant of the policy, which drops the price significantly, and would still be good for big ticket items--I feel I can deal with most things myself, as I do with my e39. My 5er has the CDV removed, but was never really happy with the shifter--way too long throws and the clutch also has a long way to go and is stiff--they are all like that. That said....at about 184,000 miles and I'm on the original clutch still! Using Royal Purple Synchromax MTF is the reason for that. I'll do the same with this one. I may be able to get it on Saturday...already found three buyers for my 540.... I think I asked too little! It's in amazing shape. But I need a change....
I wish I was offered a different plan with larger deductible, I bet I would have taken it, though I don't know how much you'd save. I do remember the E39's longer pedal travel, but don't recall its stiffness, nor the long shifter throw (the one I drove did have an M/ZHP knob). If you want to experience a stiff pedal, try out an S5, geez louise man. Good luck on both the sale (not that you need it there), and the hunting. Or maybe you're driving the new one this very second. :D Since my purchase, I've done the delete, added a shorter knob, and put in a clutch stop, oh yeah and some nice sport pedals from ECS. I'm quite happy with every one of those. Remember, pics!
Got the car, including the extended warranty ($1300 with the $300 deductible). Car only has 74k miles, not 89k like I thought for some reason! Good til 125k, so I'm happy the turbos etc will be covered. I am within my 5-day return guarantee so trying to find anything wrong with it. One thing that is odd is that I can at all times open the trunk, even when the car is locked. I don't know why that would be? I can set the guest lock in the glove compartment, but then I can't open it all unless I unlock it in the glove compartment. Any assistance on this if it is a know problem or some settings issue, please let me know! Also noted that one of the headlights points way way down low. Auto levelers activate, as they turn on and move the headlights up then down, but the passenger side lamp points way down, so maybe just an adjustment issue. Are these easy to manually adjust? My 5er is sold as of Tuesday. I don't think I asked enough! Got so many people asking if it is still available....

Pics I took..not much different than that above in first post though:

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Got the car, including the extended warranty ($1300 with the $300 deductible). Car only has 74k miles, not 89k like I thought for some reason! Good til 125k, so I'm happy the turbos etc will be covered. I am within my 5-day return guarantee so trying to find anything wrong with it. One thing that is odd is that I can at all times open the trunk, even when the car is locked. I don't know why that would be? I can set the guest lock in the glove compartment, but then I can't open it all unless I unlock it in the glove compartment. Any assistance on this if it is a know problem or some settings issue, please let me know! Also noted that one of the headlights points way way down low. Auto levelers activate, as they turn on and move the headlights up then down, but the passenger side lamp points way down, so maybe just an adjustment issue. Are these easy to manually adjust? My 5er is sold as of Tuesday. I don't think I asked enough! Got so many people asking if it is still available....

Pics I took..not much different than that above in first post though:
Congrats on the car!

The 2 things you describe are actually features, not issues. Intent of the 1st one is convenience and security; you don't have to unlock the whole vehicle to get into your trunk and possibly forget to relock.

The 2nd is for security also; you can valet your car and make the trunk inaccessible to him/her in case you want to store purses, etc.
One thing that is odd is that I can at all times open the trunk, even when the car is locked. I don't know why that would be? I can set the guest lock in the glove compartment, but then I can't open it all unless I unlock it in the glove compartment. Any assistance on this if it is a know problem or some settings issue, please let me know!
Thanks--I also just discovered that the key proximity feature is on, so that even if the car is locked, I can open the trunk manually if I have the key in my pocket whilst standing at the rear. If I try to do so without the key on my person, the trunk stays locked. Cool feature! Now only the headlight situation...I have the xenon with dynamic movement, so could be a pricey issue if not fixed...
Congrats on the car!

The 2 things you describe are actually features, not issues. Intent of the 1st one is convenience and security; you don't have to unlock the whole vehicle to get into your trunk and possibly forget to relock.

The 2nd is for security also; you can valet your car and make the trunk inaccessible to him/her in case you want to store purses, etc.
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