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on NON-SP cars? This seems to be what I observe. I think I see then MUCH more often on non-SP cars than cars with SP. I saw a non-SP 530 with manual at the dealer's lot recently, I have seen two manual X5s, TD couldn't find a manual 528iT SP, but he found manuals, all the E46s (non-M) that I have seen at driving schools have been non-SP :dunno: