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What is the general rule of thumb for everything? 10% of the price of the car assuming around 8% sales tax?
 

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What is the general rule of thumb for everything? 10% of the price of the car assuming around 8% sales tax?
Plus dealer fee plus tire disposal fee plus battery charge fee plus car wash fee plus tank of gas fee plus paperwork fee plus mailing fee plus convenience fee plus extras plus coffee fee plus any other fee dealer will make up fee.
 

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What is the general rule of thumb for everything? 10% of the price of the car assuming around 8% sales tax?
The general rule is the amount of tax charged in your state plus the state licensing fees plus maybe a small kicker for the dealer handling it for you. The fees are not based on %. If the fee to file the title paperwork is $100, it shouldn't matter if it's a $15000 car or a $50000 car
 

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My take is that anything other than tax, registration and title is gravy to the dealer. I think those "fees" should come out of dealer overhead but that's not the practice. By all means try to negotiate those charges away. Finally some dealers use a service for the DMV stuff, particularly for out of state buyers, and some just send a guy down to the local DMV a couple times a week.
 

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Taxes and registration are based on your address not the dealership location, so your rate may be different. In my case, The Denver sales tax rate is over 8%, but I live about thirty miles outside the city and only pay 3.9%. This makes a big difference when buying a car!

Registration fees are another story all together. Some people pay a small fee (less than $100) for plates & registration fees, but others may pay several hundred to over $1,000 for their plates & registration. My first year was just over $700 for my last car. It goes down gradually each year in Colorado until the car is ten years old at which point is drops to about $40.00.
 

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What is the general rule of thumb for everything? 10% of the price of the car assuming around 8% sales tax?
All we can do is guess. Best source for how much the closing costs is the dealer. Just ask. And look out for a sizable administrative fee.
 

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All we can do is guess. Best source for how much the closing costs is the dealer. Just ask. And look out for a sizable administrative fee.
No. The dealer is the worst source. They lie lie lie about these things and try to slip fees in on you at every opportunity. You have to check your bill/paperwork thoroughly cause they'll slip in fees they won't even tell you about and pretend like they didn't. :tsk:
 

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No. The dealer is the worst source. They lie lie lie about these things and try to slip fees in on you at every opportunity. You have to check your bill/paperwork thoroughly cause they'll slip in fees they won't even tell you about and pretend like they didn't. :tsk:
They don't lie about how much they charge, which was the OP's question. And, if you ask ahead of time, you have a benchmark to catch anything they slip into the paper work. Why would you not ask the dealer? :dunno:
 

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Plus dealer fee plus tire disposal fee plus battery charge fee plus car wash fee plus tank of gas fee plus paperwork fee plus mailing fee plus convenience fee plus extras plus coffee fee plus any other fee dealer will make up fee.
Love it AERO! HAHAHHAHAHA
 

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They don't lie about how much they charge, which was the OP's question. And, if you ask ahead of time, you have a benchmark to catch anything they slip into the paper work. Why would you not ask the dealer? :dunno:
Interesting discussion here. Using the term "the dealer" is being vague. Who are we talking about exactly? The salesman, the sales manager, the finance manager, or the internet manager. Talking from experience (8 new cars in the past 10 years, not including negotiating 2 other deals for friends last year), the salesman will sometimes lie but a lot of times he doesn't know himself. And being a salesman, when asked, he will rattle something off but also keep talking to divert your attention from your original question. Sales manager, will tell you what he charges which usually would not be the base/correct rate. Call him out on it and he will find somewhere else to shift their profit. Finance manager, by the time you're in his office, you've already agreed to a deal with their markups built in.

Best places to ask are to email the internet manager or check with your local registry. Knowing your state's registration and tax rates can be key. For example, here in Mass, new plates and registration are $135. But when transferring plates, the fee is only $50. Most dealers around here will still automatically charge $135 on their paperwork. Ask them, they'll tell you $135, and frankly, some of the people working there don't know. It's up to you to know what you should be paying. Ask what does the doc fee include. Some may or may not include the inspection sticker. The title fee is also an official fee from your city/state.
 

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No. The dealer is the worst source. They lie lie lie about these things and try to slip fees in on you at every opportunity. You have to check your bill/paperwork thoroughly cause they'll slip in fees they won't even tell you about and pretend like they didn't. :tsk:
Not in my experience after buying several new cars. The only surprises come from not asking a question because you assume you know the answer.
 
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