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So I went down to the dealership the other day to pick up some random parts, and noticed that there were about half-a-dozen 745s on the lot. As I reported before, I am emphatically *not* one of the people who believe that the car looks better in person. If anything, its distended bulges are more disturbing in 3D than they are on the printed page.

But this was the first time that I had a chance to sit in the car. I didn't have the key, so I couldn't play with the iDrive, but I did get a good sense of the "ergonomics" of the machine (using that term very loosely here).

For those who have not had the displeasure of sitting in a 745, let me try an paint a mental picture for you. First, imagine a 1988 Pontiac 6000 STE. Now, let's turn George Barris loose, but let's make sure that he's only been able to read a steady diet of Swedish furniture magazines for about 6 months. Let's also give him a TV monitor that he has to stick into the dashboard, but emphasize that he doesn't have to integrate it at all--a hooded enclosure, like something from the Batmobile, is perfectly fine.

The resultant horror is almost too unbelievable to accept. The dash retains the basic 80s GM sensibility, with a long, vertical line separating the top and bottom halfs, and eliminating completely any feeling of driver orientation or cockpit feel. The colors and materials are trendy in a cheap kind of way, like something from IKEA, except that you paid 70K for this furniture. The iDrive monitor protrudes from the center of the dash like an afterthought, managing to be both irritatingly in the driver's line of sight and at the same time requiring a head-turn to clearly focus on it.

In short, the E65 has an interior worthy both of its exterior and of its illustrious designer. Unfortunately, the one feature I was unable to locate was the one that I needed the most: an airsickness bag.
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Sounds like fun!! Did you get your deposit in on one?? :p :p
JPinTO said:
Sounds like fun!! Did you get your deposit in on one?? :p :p
I think he bought 4 from the lot :p

Btw, the E65 kicks arse :thumb:
First, imagine a 1988 Pontiac 6000 STE. Now, let's turn George Barris loose, but let's make sure that he's only been able to read a steady diet of Swedish furniture magazines for about 6 months. Let's also give him a TV monitor that he has to stick into the dashboard, but emphasize that he doesn't have to integrate it at all--a hooded enclosure, like something from the Batmobile, is perfectly fine.
ROTFLOL!!!
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MOS...

I agree with most of the original post- We had an 'Open House' last week here in Seattle to show off the new 745i. I was not impressed. I hadn't thought of it in those 'GM' terms, but, Hey- If the shoe fits, wear it.
What got me most disappointed was the thought that BMW did not learn from the mistake Mercedes made with the 1992 S Class. But, this is even worse. That car was way over-complex and was over the top as far as complexity is concerned. My Dad bought a 1994 740iL as a result. He was looking for a '2002' 740iL to replace it. I told him of the changes coming. He didn't really comprehend what the 'I-drive" was about, but he did see the early pictures of the new car. He RAN down and got a 2001 740iL before they were all gone. (He got upwards of $16k off MSRP to boot!)

Digressiom follows:
I remember as high school kids getting together at a friends house to work on his Camaro. We were 'mechanically' minded in our upbringing. I'm now an Engineer for a 'large Seattle aircraft company' (guess who). I think the 745i was built by a bunch of Engineers that as kids, stayed home and played video games and built computers. They became software Engineers and think accordingly.....

A couple of closing thoughts:
1- Can you picture getting spare parts in 15 years for some of the unique electronic systems and servos that will fail? Just wait till the warranty is over.
2- I don't care how 'good' it may be technically. If a car is not appealing visually, there is nothing more than I need to know (I don't care how 'good' the Pontiac Aztec is.....)

OK-
I feel better now....

Kevin
PS- Just to let you know where I'm coming from. I have a 2002. No, the car- not the year... :p
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I personly really like the car, the looks, the materials, pretty much everything. About the only thing I don 't like is the interior metalic trim, which is plastic, not metal. I wish they'd follow audi's philosophy that a material should be what it looks like. But anyway this is coming froma 22 year old. Maybe we should get some age demographics and align them with an opinion? If a lot of young people like it then perhaps BMW really is on the right track.
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Agree w/ you JST. Its very 80s GM w/ 90s Ikea materials. It upsets me that if GM produced a car w/ this interior today (say in the form of a Cadillac) they'd be severly derided and scoffed at. When BMW does, its some sort of "Design revolution" Barf. The best that I can do when I look at the car is to squint and try really hard to forgive its unsightly lines, bulges and awkward cut-lines. Some designs you look at and you just want to keep "drinking" them in-- they're just so pleasing. This is just not one of them. TO me, it looks like a design that wasn't finished-- maybe a 2nd or 3rd iteration concept that still needs to be refined. Anyway, enough beating the dead horse... Then again, Bangle must have done something right - he's generated endless debates about the new design which I'm sure was one of his intentions-- then again the Pontiac Aztec shares similar notoriety. :)
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