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So i get a call from the mechanic today...here's the rundown. Remember I've had this car 6 weeks since I bought it in florida and haven't had it checked out locally and didn't when I got it.

1. Door lock actuator for front doors is bad. $549. This was the main reason I brought it in
2. 100K mile service. spark plugs, oil change etc. $568
3. check side light message. I guess there are like 11 codes coming from the lighting module (I may have that wrong). He said no power going to the right side lighting elements. Basically it manifested by the driver's side angel eyes not being on, but headlights work. side marker is out. $609 to replace entire lighting module
4. Now the big one. my oil valve cover is leaking. I have a bad oil separator. Not a recall (yet). Could be a big problem in the winter months and could cause the engine to blow. $1,290 for that.

I told him to go ahead and do it all. I knew I'd have to put some money into this car when I bought it and was prepared to do so. Like I've said, I'm not a DIY guy but do enjoy my cars and want them to run. I do little cosmetic things to them but not big mechanical stuff myself.

I really like this car and will have it for 4-5 years most likely. He said otherwise it looks in good shape. Rims are straight. Subframe is straight. runs well and looks good.
I trust this shop as they come highly recommended from the hoosier bmw club.

He did tell me to keep the receipt on the oil separator as it may become a recall someday.
 

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- Lighting Module. It can be fixed for $10:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4259861

- Oil Valve Cover + CCV = $1290. I think you got robbed big time.

- Oil Valve Cover is a very easy job.

- The CCV is a complex issue. At that mileage 100K, I had alot of cracked vacuum hoses, Intake Seals. A good mechanic would address ALL of the issues that I outlined in my DIY:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=379225

1- Replacing Oil Line to Vanos (mine is leaking).
2- Replacing CCV and hoses (preventive).
3- Cleaning ICV and replace its hoses (preventive).
4- Cleaning Alternator Air Duct and Installed Gutter Guard to prevent leaves from being sucked in.
5. Miscellaneous Gaskets, Seals.

If the mechanic simply replaces the CCV, you will pay him again very soon for cracked vacuum hoses, Intake manifold Seals etc etc.

PS: I don't blame you, DIY is time-consuming, but with the way things are going, over the next 4-5 years you may end up spending the same amount for repair as you paid for your E39. Just make sure you have a steady source of income for the indy.
 

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Oh, and he just called back and forgot to tell me about the (surprise surprise) the water pump and thermostat. I knew about those. Mine isn't bad, but it's preventative maintenance and I don't want to be stuck on the side of the road when that blows. $790.

I may be getting hosed on this deal, but I really have no options. Until I find some buddies locally who can work on this car with me, I'll be using the independent mechanic. Hopefully all these fixes will last me a few years.

I know when I paid $10,900 for my '98 volvo V70R in 2005 I put quite a bit of money into it right away and a little bit here and there through the years but it was worth it. Very nice, functional used wagon that did what I wanted. I enjoyed it a lot and I'm sure I'll enjoy this car. Maybe I can learn from here on some simple fixes in the future, but for now the mechanic will get my business and my money to keep this car going strong for many years to come.
 

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Oh, and he just called back and forgot to tell me about the (surprise surprise) the water pump and thermostat. I knew about those. Mine isn't bad, but it's preventative maintenance and I don't want to be stuck on the side of the road when that blows. $790.....
WP + Tstat = $790, again you are getting robbed.
It is a 2h job max.

What you need is way more than WP + Tstat!!!
You need a cooling overhaul at 100K miles.
It is about $650 for parts only (no labor). But it includes every single part in the cooling system:
www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/199986
 

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I agree with cn90. You are getting taken by that indy. T-stat and water pump are easy for diyers and parts are about $100. The indy should be charging $200 parts with his markup, and 2 hours labor at the most at $100/hr (highr than most indys) for $400. At best you are being over charged for this by $390. Find a different mechanic. It does not have to be a BMW specialist. Anybody can do this repair.

If you don't want to DIY, okay. But you can use this forum to find out what repairs should involve for parts and labor, and what a fair price should be. In addition, you can find out how the repairs should be done to keep you from having to redo them in the future.

Good Luck
 

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Many (most) repairs can be done by non-BMW specialists. Cars are cars***8230;each has their quirks. Of course, a guy who ONLY works on pickup trucks won't be a good choice for a BMW service.

+1 on being hosed.
 

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So it sounds like I was fortunate to make it home from West Palm Beach, FL last month.

I guess I'll call the mechanic tomorrow and see if he will budge on the price. If not and he's already ordered the parts I guess I could pay for the parts and tell him thanks but no thanks. Start shopping around for a better mechanic. That's a hassle and may save me $500 or so from what you guys are saying.

This really stinks because I want to do what's right for the car to keep it in good condition, but also don't want to get taken for a ride. I need to find a better shop even though this one was recommended by the local club, but they may jack up their labor rates.

If anyone in central IN knows a better shop, let me know. I'm all ears.
 

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Freaking Braman! I hate those guys! Those issue's are kind of small. Maybe the LCM issue I would ahve bitched a little on. Call the dealer and say "Did you know the car needs a new LCM!" and see what they say. The other things I guess are normal replace items. It just sucks that you have to take it to an indy. Maybe find somebody local that has or use's a good indy?

Good luck meng. That CCV would be a PITA when it gets cold.
 

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....If anyone in central IN knows a better shop, let me know. I'm all ears.
- You are in Zionsville IN, ask the maker of Zionsville radiator for recommendation:
http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/
Some of these guys do side job on the weekend at their house or your house for about $25/h.

- Also PM [email protected], he live somewhere NW Indiana. He knows the E39 very well and his sig states that: "Service now available by appointment in the Chicagoland area, PM me for info"
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=386329

PS: One of the sales clerk at my local Auto Parts Store used to work for the local BMW dealer, got laid off, so he became the sales clerk for OReilly Auto Parts. He does alot of indy work at his home for a reasonable fees. I have not needed him because I do virtually everything myself. But you never know one of those sales clerks at local auto parts store is a pro.
 

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Freaking Braman! I hate those guys! Those issue's are kind of small. Maybe the LCM issue I would ahve bitched a little on. Call the dealer and say "Did you know the car needs a new LCM!" and see what they say. The other things I guess are normal replace items. It just sucks that you have to take it to an indy. Maybe find somebody local that has or use's a good indy?

Good luck meng. That CCV would be a PITA when it gets cold.
You seriously think Braman is going to do anything for my faulty LCM? It's a used car. You take your chances but they did do a "pre purchase inspection" at their place. You think I have any recourse on that issue? I guess it can't hurt to ask but I'm sure they will just laught at me. On the other hand the car does look very good, it's a rare color, in very good condition interior and exterior so I'm not so mad...just a little.
 

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There's some liability as they did a PPI***8230;I would think?
 

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- You are in Zionsville IN, ask the maker of Zionsville radiator for recommendation:
http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/
Some of these guys do side job on the weekend at their house or your house for about $25/h.

- Also PM [email protected], he live somewhere NW Indiana. He knows the E39 very well and his sig states that: "Service now available by appointment in the Chicagoland area, PM me for info"
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=386329

PS: One of the sales clerk at my local Auto Parts Store used to work for the local BMW dealer, got laid off, so he became the sales clerk for OReilly Auto Parts. He does alot of indy work at his home for a reasonable fees. I have not needed him because I do virtually everything myself. But you never know one of those sales clerks at local auto parts store is a pro.
I called Zionsville Autosports and they don't do any service. Just parts. I could ask in the future about side jobs for service.

I also called my indy mechanic where the car is now (Vaugh Motorwerks) and their labor rate is $85/hour. I talked him down quite a bit on his rates. Told him I was shopping around and that I'd pay him for the parts and take my business elsewhere. He got, understandably, defensive and said he would get back with me on the labor and cut me a deal since I'm giving him quite a lot of business on this job.
 

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Your best bet with all the Euro cars you have is to find a few Volvo/BMW mechanics who are doing side jobs at home.
 

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Hey Soledoc-

I am doing service and repairs now, and I do not mark up parts, you pay the pricing you see on our website. I am a little ways North of you but the money I save you would probably make up for the drive. :)

If you ever want an estimate or just a second opinion of someone knowledgeable by all means let me know. You can PM me through the site or send me an email to: mark @ eactuning.com (no spaces)

good luck with your e39!
 

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Hey Soledoc-

I am doing service and repairs now, and I do not mark up parts, you pay the pricing you see on our website. I am a little ways North of you but the money I save you would probably make up for the drive. :)

If you ever want an estimate or just a second opinion of someone knowledgeable by all means let me know. You can PM me through the site or send me an email to: mark @ eactuning.com (no spaces)

good luck with your e39!
:thumbup: Way to go Mark!

I would call Braman anyway and find out about that PPI they did. Tell whats wrong with LCM. Its worth a shot.
 

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Hey Soledoc-

I am doing service and repairs now, and I do not mark up parts, you pay the pricing you see on our website. I am a little ways North of you but the money I save you would probably make up for the drive. :)

If you ever want an estimate or just a second opinion of someone knowledgeable by all means let me know. You can PM me through the site or send me an email to: mark @ eactuning.com (no spaces)

good luck with your e39!
Thanks for the offer. I'm actually driving up to Chicago next Wednesday on my way to stay with the inlaws in Wheeling, IL. I might take you up on the offer sometime. Logistically it might be a nightmare to work out, but we could talk.
 

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:thumbup: Way to go Mark!

I would call Braman anyway and find out about that PPI they did. Tell whats wrong with LCM. Its worth a shot.
Good idea. I'm having the indy mechanic fax me the parts/labor quote and what needs to be fixed. I'm going to fax it to Braman and also email my salesguy and see what happens. What does PPI stand for? pre ? inspection maybe?
 
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