What you state is true, that is the problem.JST said:I think the SMG is probably the right choice for the track (or even for autocrossing), for the reasons you state. After all, that's why they use it in F1.
I would stick with the traditional stick for street use or mixed street/track use, though. I've heard that SMG-type transmissions eat clutches pretty quickly, which is OK on an F355 or a Vanquish (that might go 1000 miles in a year), but is NOT acceptable on a car I use as a 12K mi/yr daily driver. I've also heard that they are awkward in urban settings, which is where I do a good chunk of my driving.
More than that, though, I really do enjoy the interplay of the clutch pedal and the other controls. It's fun to shift using a clutch, and I don't see any reason to give that up.
It isn't an automaticatyclb said:No fancy automatics for me!
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Sure it is!nate328Ci said:
It isn't an automatic![]()
theoretically maybe it isn't. But as long as there's no clutch pedal, it's not a manual either, IMO.nate328Ci said:It isn't an automatic![]()
Alex,Alex Baumann said:...With Alpina Switchtronic you have the same effect.
You mean the Alpina ? Yes, 6-Speed manual :thumb:ALEX325i said:
Alex,
Yours is manual, right?
Switchtronic is a regular Steptronic transmission with shift buttons on the steering wheel, right?Alex Baumann said:
theoretically maybe it isn't. But as long as there's no clutch pedal, it's not a manual either, IMO.
With Alpina Switchtronic you have the same effect.
:thumb:Alex Baumann said:
You mean the Alpina ? Yes, 6-Speed manual :thumb:
Honestly, after almost three years the automatic became boring.
We know, we know....nate328Ci said:
Switchtronic is a regular Steptronic transmission with shift buttons on the steering wheel, right?
That is VERY, VERY different from SMG. SMG is a real manual with computer cluch programs. Switchtronic doesn't dump the clutch, allow you to shift in 0.08sec, rev-match, etc.....
One that can shift much more adeptly than youatyclb said:
We know, we know....
but it's still a fancy manu-matic.![]()
Nate,nate328Ci said:
Switchtronic is a regular Steptronic transmission with shift buttons on the steering wheel, right?
That is VERY, VERY different from SMG. SMG is a real manual with computer cluch programs. Switchtronic doesn't dump the clutch, allow you to shift in 0.08sec, rev-match, etc.....
You may not think that it is a real manual, I can accept that. But saying that SMG is a fancy automatic is completely wrong.Alex Baumann said:
Nate,
I know very well how SMG works. A real manual car has a clutch pedal. SMG is something between automatic and manual. How do you explain the Auto-mode in SMG ?
With SMG you're not clutching, you are having the computer clutching for you (in a conventional way of course).
nate328Ci said:
You may not think that it is a real manual, I can accept that. But saying that SMG is a fancy automatic is completely wrong.
Well, some may say it's fancy-automatic, others may say it's a fancy-manual. I'd call it SMGnate328Ci said:You may not think that it is a real manual, I can accept that. But saying that SMG is a fancy automatic is completely wrong.
Automatic mode in SMG is very crude, the manual mode allows complete control of the shifiting that is not possible with a Step....
atyclb said: