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So I got a speeding ticket on the mail from Switzerland, for apparently going 11 km/h over the speed limit in Zurich when we were driving thru there on our way to baden-baden :eek:

WTF? first of, I assume this was some automated camera and not an actual cop, as we were never stopped. 11 km/h over? really?? :confused:

and here is the funniest part: 250CH!!!!! :rofl::rofl::eek:


anyone ever get one of these, and any real negatives from not paying this ridiculous ticket?
 

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anyone ever get one of these, and any real negatives from not paying this ridiculous ticket?
Several years ago we had a family friend who did a short stay in Geneva and got a ticket. He left without paying it. His firm later offered him a more permanent position there, so he applied for a Swiss visa and work permit. It was denied. They told him he would also be on the "no entry" list if he tried to fly into any Swiss international airport for a shorter period under the tourist visa waiver scheme.

He could not get this restriction lifted even after paying the fine later. He eventually rented an apartment in France (St. Genis, possibly) and drove in every work day for several months. When I met him for lunch in Geneva, it made a great story, but it was clear he made the wrong decision.
 

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Consider it part of the fun experience you had, pay it and move on.
 

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From what I understand, Switzerland gives very little if any leeway on the speed limit. It's, you go over, you pay. I would just pay it. You never know when you may want to go back. N4S
 

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From what I understand, Switzerland gives very little if any leeway on the speed limit. It's, you go over, you pay. I would just pay it. You never know when you may want to go back. N4S
We transited thru Switzerland for 2 hours and I was hyper-vigilant about speed, keeping at least 2 to 3 km below the speed limit just to make sure I was not breaking the law. While I noticed that most Germans obeyed the speed limit on the Autobahn, everyone in Switzerland obeyed the speed limits. There is simply no leeway, even + 1 or 2 km.

I agree with the advice above...pay the fine now and chalk it up to another expense of the trip. Failure to pay may come back to haunt you in ways you cannot even imagine.
 

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It's not like there haven't been many, many posts about the perils of speeding in Switzerland and their no-tolerance policy.

Maybe this will ease the pain: Pretend that you got a flat tire and it cost more than twice that amount and you had no other option than to buck up and pay for a new tire. Then it will make it a lot easier to actually pay "only" CHF 250. At least it didn't waylay your trip at the time.
 

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well, thanks guys for the prompt replies.

this certainly sucks! :mad: Oh well, there goes an unexpected "tax" from our trip! :thumbdwn:
 

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This makes me a little worried now because there were definitely some spots on the autobahn I know I was going faster than the limit, especially through some tunnels where I remember the limit drops :eek: There was a Porsche going pretty fast too though. Switzerland is beautiful, but is known for being expensive all around.
 

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This makes me a little worried now because there were definitely some spots on the autobahn I know I was going faster than the limit, especially through some tunnels where I remember the limit drops :eek: There was a Porsche going pretty fast too though. Switzerland is beautiful, but is known for being expensive all around.
I can just see the email exchange...

Dear Pete:

Somehow we missed your speeding through our tunnels on your recent trip. Please send us your Zoll plate number and the dates you were in our cute little country so we can review the videos. When (note, not IF) we find you and your BMW, we shall send you a nice souvenir of your visit along with details on how to pay.

Best regards,
The Swiss Highway Authority


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Is 11km/h after deducting from the allowance? I was caught by a camera near the airport. It sent me a multi language letter, detailing it clocked me at X, minus allowance Y, thus fine me $125.
 

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It probably took so long because they had to get back to the German/Munich DMV, process, then mail to the USA. I'm not sure which part is ridiculous. The cost or the amount over? Switzerland is expensive, so I guess it's logical that fines are expensive. A limit is a limit - it's ridiculous and inconsistent to have an allowance - this makes it ambiguous for visitors. I'm from Australia where the limits vary by state. Some states nab a lot of out of staters that way. In the US, there may be an allowance for speeding - but why not also for DUI? They think I can't accurately measure my speed, but I can accurately know my blood alcohol level? Now that's ridiculous (or at least inconsistent). Why not make all limits absolute (meanwhile increasing them), and let people drive within them? Wouldn't that be simpler?
 

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It probably took so long because they had to get back to the German/Munich DMV, process, then mail to the USA. I'm not sure which part is ridiculous.
Agree, it took Canadian government 2 months to tell me that I was due toll on its highway.
 

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There wouldn't be any hypocrisy if the poster also sped in the US and paid those tickets - just as if they were in Europe. Also limits I believe in Europe are absolutes. The limits (in California at least excluding the highways), are guides - the police have to prove that the speed driven was unsafe etc. at the time. So you can be over the limit in California, but not breaking the law.
 

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Switzerland is a beautiful place but not a place to race around.
The traffic fines are adimantly upheld and the fines can be levied based on your income.
Advice: drive at ow below the limit and enjoy the scenery.
 

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I was in Spain on a business trip last month and my friend from work and I were driving from Madrid airport to Salamanca. Shortly after we left Madrid, we both heard beeping noises from time to time, but each time they subsided after a while. We thought that the beeping noises were coming from the car but it was fairly new and there did not seem to be anything wrong with the car. It took us some time before we figured out that the beeping noises were coming from the Garmin that he was using to navigate around. It would beep from time to time to warn us of a traffic camera on the highway. My friend was definitely driving over the speed limit, so once we figured out what was going on, we began to wonder how many speeding tickets he was going to get by mail. I talked to him yesterday and he said that he had not received any tickets yet.

Another colleague of mine amassed a number of parking tickets during visits to The Netherlands where we have an office. He apparently did not pay any of them. But after one of his trips, when he was trying to fly back home from Amsterdam, the immigration guys detained him until the police got there. They told him that he would not be allowed to leave the country until he had paid his fines. They told him that they would escort him to an ATM if he wanted to pay by cash. He was terribly embarassed and mortified by the whole ordeal and told us afterwards that he would never again put himself in a situation like that.
 

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There is simply no leeway, even + 1 or 2 km.
Incorrect statement, sorry: The tolerance/leeway is either 3kph if the speed camera is laser based, 5kph is it's radar based, or 7kph if videotaped by a (undercover) police car driving behind you. The applicable tolerance should be clearly mentioned on the ticket.
BTW really bad luck for the OP, as just 1kph less would have cost "only" 120 CHF.

Note that the fines in CH are also depending on the location type: City, country roads or motorway. City is about twice as expensive than motorway for a particular excess speed.

So the actual speed was either 64 or 67 kph, which means roughly 30% over the limit (assuming the typical 50kph city limit). Or in other words, an approx. 50% longer stopping distance equivalent to about 2 car lengths in case of an emergency situation... :rolleyes:
 

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We transited thru Switzerland for 2 hours and I was hyper-vigilant about speed, keeping at least 2 to 3 km below the speed limit just to make sure I was not breaking the law. While I noticed that most Germans obeyed the speed limit on the Autobahn, everyone in Switzerland obeyed the speed limits. There is simply no leeway, even + 1 or 2 km.

I agree with the advice above...pay the fine now and chalk it up to another expense of the trip. Failure to pay may come back to haunt you in ways you cannot even imagine.
Incorrect statement, sorry: The tolerance/leeway is either 3kph if the speed camera is laser based, 5kph is it's radar based, or 7kph if videotaped by a (undercover) police car driving behind you. The applicable tolerance should be clearly mentioned on the ticket.
BTW really bad luck for the OP, as just 1kph less would have cost "only" 120 CHF.

Note that the fines in CH are also depending on the location type: City, country roads or motorway. City is about twice as expensive than motorway for a particular excess speed.

So the actual speed was either 64 or 67 kph, which means roughly 30% over the limit (assuming the typical 50kph city limit). Or in other words, an approx. 50% longer stopping distance equivalent to about 2 car lengths in case of an emergency situation... :rolleyes:
Agree, it is an incorrect statement. Like my letter stated that it gives 10km/h allowance.
 
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