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Good Day Everyone,

I have had an X5 35D since late June. I have been back to the dealer twice with check engine faults related to Air Sensors. One for intake air temp and once for a mass flow sensor. Have these been a common issue?

I will add that it is nice to have the Gopoint App for the Iphone to at least have a rough idea of the check engine light issue is
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the issue for me is I have had way too many problems with this car and since I have been a BMW owner for over 15 years now this was a HUGE surprise to me. In addition I do expect the service to be above what you get in a honda dealership since i am paying a lot of money for the vehicle. Let me ask you something. if you get bad medical advice to you keep going back to the same doctor? You do if you had a history and he/she made one mistake. but two mistakes? Nope I will go to someone else. Thus with BMW. If I have similar problems with the 35d BMW will lose my business, at least for a while.

As for your last point, I don't have time to take the car to the dealer, especially with all the issues I have had so yes its very nice that they can pickup and drop off a loaner. And if there is an accident thats why you have insurance in the first place.
The 'issue' for me is how one has FOUR oxygen sensors in 3 years and then bring it back and get told "Oxygen sensor again"...and swallow that.

Look in an ideal world you pay your money and get concierge service... but when that doesn't happen do you just change hotels hoping to find better? OR do you demand the service you've paid for?

Look, it is just a car- just money- so no big deal....but do people have the same sort of response when they get bad medical advice? Or legal advice?

One last thought-You let them drive the car to and fro? You do understand that if there is an accident it is YOUR insurance that is on the hook, right?

A

PS ard, not ARD. They are not initials either. ;)
+1. While I never let the dealership's valets drive my M3, it's much more convenient to have them come to the house or the office when the X5's need service.

At the end of the day, the X5 is just a car, not a priceless, irreplaceable piece of art.
As for your last point, I don't have time to take the car to the dealer, especially with all the issues I have had so yes its very nice that they can pickup and drop off a loaner. And if there is an accident thats why you have insurance in the first place.
Is anyone not having these sorts of problems? I was thinking about getting a 35d for my wife, but we are coming off an Audi A4 that was a code throwing machine, and I am not up for a repeat performance. Anyone with an encouraging 35d experience?
Many diesel owners are happy including myself. Over a year and $15K miles. Great driving performance and highly efficient engine. Has been very reliable. Only been to the dealer a couple of times including the scheduled maintenance at 10k miles. Do a forum search...
Is anyone not having these sorts of problems? I was thinking about getting a 35d for my wife, but we are coming off an Audi A4 that was a code throwing machine, and I am not up for a repeat performance. Anyone with an encouraging 35d experience?
This is my first BMW, 7 months and 11500 miles on it. Never had a problem, got the first service done last week. The least temp I've faced is -7, day before yesterday.
Fuel system issues?

I've just read the latest Consumer Reports review on the 35d. For the 2011 prediction, it rates is as "Much worse than average. Based on the latest survey, we expect reliability of new models will be 68% below average"

I never expect BMW to be the most reliable vehicles out there, but 68% below average? The 3 items ranked at much worse than average are "fuel system, body hardware, audio system." Only time will tell if these predictions are accurate, but has anyone had fuel system issues yet?
I have had my 35d for about 34 days now. My X5 went into the shop today. My repair history:

First visit: Bad Instrument Cluster, repaired a flaw in leather door, lubricated rear passenger door (would not close on first try), and finally left me with a free door ding on the driver's door.

Second visit: Several warning lights (Parking Brake, ABS, xDRIVE, Chassis Stabilization) - for sure the AWD is not working. Did not hear anything back from dealer today. Is it asking too much for the SA to call the customer at the end of the day to provide some feedback?

If you want a loaner at my dealer you must set up your appt two weeks in advance. Not sure how you do that when your AWD craps out.

With all this, I must say I love my new X5 35d. As an owner of several BMWs now, I expect to make several visits per year (not per month :( though.) If you are looking for guaranteed reliability and do not have the patience or want to deal with dealer visits, I think BMW is the wrong brand unless you get lucky as some percentage of BMWs do provide trouble free driving. Just a smaller percentage than other brands I guess.
Usually posts complaining about reliability come from people who just joined a forum looking for answers or just to complain. From what I've seen so far on this and other X5 forums is a large number of owners who are regulars on the forum and have started to have problems with their X5 (35d in particular). Mine has flaked out a couple of times already. I started posting to this forum when I had ordered the vehicle. :-(

-- Lee
2011 X5 35d
What does "68% below average mean"???????? Is average one visit every 5 years and 68% below is 1.68 vists per 5 years??

I think it all depends on how the owner is 'wired' about car issues, and how they manage their dealer and how good the dealer is.... some people are ready to commit suicide if the car has two issues in the first week. Disappointing, yes- but let them fix it and move on.

Having said that, I think BMW has an absolute disaster on their hands with the BS navigation/entertainment system... I expect wholesale changes to that software over time.

A
I've just read the latest Consumer Reports review on the 35d. For the 2011 prediction, it rates is as "Much worse than average. Based on the latest survey, we expect reliability of new models will be 68% below average"

I never expect BMW to be the most reliable vehicles out there, but 68% below average? The 3 items ranked at much worse than average are "fuel system, body hardware, audio system." Only time will tell if these predictions are accurate, but has anyone had fuel system issues yet?
:dunno: Lee, you completely misread my post. I'm asking if anyone has experienced any fuel system issues in reference to the CR article. I've owned 3 BMWs' and have not seen a review like this from CR (however subjective they may be). I do have a complaint about ass*** like you that make no contributions to the forum with senseless comments.
Usually posts complaining about reliability come from people who just joined a forum looking for answers or just to complain. From what I've seen so far on this and other X5 forums is a large number of owners who are regulars on the forum and have started to have problems with their X5 (35d in particular). Mine has flaked out a couple of times already. I started posting to this forum when I had ordered the vehicle. :-(

-- Lee
2011 X5 35d
What are the fuel system issues of which you speak? High pressure fuel pumps? We know they were a mess on the E90 and E60 - have not heard of F10's or E70's having many (any?) problems yet. We also know folks who get all hot and bothered when they don't tighten the gas cap, throw a CEL and immediately want to find a lemon law attorney. I guess these are "fuel system issues", however trivial. Or has CR spotted something else that folks on this board haven't started carping about yet?
And your own contributions to this forum would be.....?
:dunno: Lee, you completely misread my post. I'm asking if anyone has experienced any fuel system issues in reference to the CR article. I've owned 3 BMWs' and have not seen a review like this from CR (however subjective they may be). I do have a complaint about ass*** like you that make no contributions to the forum with senseless comments.
1. I don't know what "fuel system issues" the geniuses at CR are referencing.... The reports of 'fuel system issues' in the DIESEL are very low, just going from my memory here. Intake air temp faults? Yes, been there, recalled that. Fuel system? No, unless funky DEF (an exhaust fluid additive) is 'fuel system' at CR.

2. Don't pull out the ******* comments so quickly- I think you actually misread his post. Why don't you guys first figure out if one or the other is being an ******* before the names, no?

A
:dunno: Lee, you completely misread my post. I'm asking if anyone has experienced any fuel system issues in reference to the CR article. I've owned 3 BMWs' and have not seen a review like this from CR (however subjective they may be). I do have a complaint about ass*** like you that make no contributions to the forum with senseless comments.
And your own contributions to this forum would be.....?
2. Don't pull out the ******* comments so quickly- I think you actually misread his post. Why don't you guys first figure out if one or the other is being an ******* before the names, no?

A
Agreed and agreed! :thumbup:
Wow... perhaps you should re-read my post again. My comment was directed that it seems that X5's _are_ having reliability problems.

I can only _dream_ of contributing to this forum as well as you did with your eloquent post.

-- Lee
:dunno: Lee, you completely misread my post. I'm asking if anyone has experienced any fuel system issues in reference to the CR article. I've owned 3 BMWs' and have not seen a review like this from CR (however subjective they may be). I do have a complaint about ass*** like you that make no contributions to the forum with senseless comments.
That might be an explanation. While technically incorrect, I could see how they might consider DEF as part of the "fuel" system, or at least the survey repondents could. And it would be yet another example of BMW NA ineptly shooting themselves in the foot -- I am sure people responding to the CR survey with a 35D would consider it a "problem" if they got an early DEF warning due to partially-filled DEF tanks from the factory, particularly if BMW charged them $$$ for the DEF refill as part of the "free" BMW maintenance they advertise so widely.
Fuel system? No, unless funky DEF (an exhaust fluid additive) is 'fuel system' at CR.
Okay I figured out the OP's contributions - he doesn't even own an X5. Not sure why he feels entitled to flame folks who replied (thoughtfully) to his question. But I guess nothing should surprise me any more.
I ordered mine today and is expected to arrive in March.
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Okay I figured out the OP's contributions - he doesn't even own an X5. Not sure why he feels entitled to flame folks who replied (thoughtfully) to his question. But I guess nothing should surprise me any more.
:tsk: Huh? Do I need to own an e70 right now to join the forum and ask something about its reliability? I never stated my e70 ownership status (nor would it matter?), but I guess that makes me inferior to you in addition to not having "entitlement" to a reply.

Oh, wait a minute, this is a waste of everyone's time and I'm not here to make any enemies. I enjoy the forum and am a BMW enthusiast like many here. If you want to take this outside, I'll meet you at the baseball field by your house after work.
Ownership is absolutely not needed to ask questions. But when you start calling people who respond to your questions ass*****s, you cross a line. Sorry if you don't get that or like it, but it's not going to endear you to anyone here.
7000 miles on my 10 x5d no problems at all.
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