in_d_haus said:We had one out at the track last time, it was beating the E30 but not the E46s. There was a senior instructor at the wheel and he was up on 2 wheels around some of the corners. It was a demon on the straights though.
All that mass that high up only corners so good, it's got physics working against it.
JPinTO said:I had the 4.4 last weekend... and it [email protected]
That 4.0L M3 GTR V-8 would shure be niceblackdawg said:despite the weight....once rolling and even with the tractive advantage from a standstill:
there is no substitute for cubic inches.
in fact, while the M3 (i have on order) is a damn fine car, it still doesn't hold a candle to the 3.6litre P-car engine (2002 model year and up, or even the 993 aircooled motors at 3.8L).
the new 7 motor is really fine, too.
ALEX325i said:I drove a 3.0 (auto) last year. I confess I was not impressed... Came close to buying a 4.4 last year (right before I found my former M3 @ MSRP), which I found "fun" to drive. That 4.4 V8 is a nice motor. Can you imagine a 4.6is?
Oh well, I don't think I'll ever own a SUV, SAV, whatever... Thanks to FL traffic, I'm now an SUV hater...![]()
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Yup, there is no replacement for displacement!blackdawg said:
there is no substitute for cubic inches.
I'd hope so at $80 grand+ a car!
in fact, while the M3 (i have on order) is a damn fine car, it still doesn't hold a candle to the 3.6litre P-car engine (2002 model year and up, or even the 993 aircooled motors at 3.8L).
nate328Ci said:
I too am not impressed with the X5. The big motors only come in auto, the car is huge, high center of gravity, expensive, my car is as fast (or faster) and much more fun :dunno:
When are you going to change your profile location to Brazil?![]()
ALEX325i said:
3.0's can be had with a manual tranny...I don't think they would perform much better though... Well, those cars were not exactly designed to "perform"...
I won't bother. I'll be back in the States on Monday...![]()
No offense, but I don't think you can compare any existing SUV including a Bravada to an X5. My wife's ML320 is a turd compared to the X5. The X5 was like driving a tall sports sedan.... I had no performance complaints (handling, cornering, braking) compared with my E46.blackdawg said:right now it's my primary vehicle.
it's fine if i don't think about it.
am sure the X5 is a tad better, though.
got to drive the wagon in today, and what a world of difference that car is compared with the sports useless vehicle.
problem is: 3 dogs (labradors) barely fit in the wagon, so the SUV will actually be a practical vehicle for us always. unless they make an AWD 5 series wagon (a rumor).
eugeneDC/TX said:ayn and i drove the 4.4 at the ultimate drive event and it does indeed drive like a tall car, a tall bmw car. i really was anti suv, but if i had to get one, i'd have to consider the x5 (except the friggin price) cuz of the drive
JPinTO said:
I was shocked how BMW-like it drove compared to every other SUV I've been in. Getting back into our ML was a huge step backwards!Pricing is nasty... but still cheaper than a 540i.