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Rough Idle Solved

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Yesterday in an effort to find a faulty coil, I did the home made version of checking them without diagnostic equipment. You know the one where you start the engine, take note of the current bad idle condition then go about disconnecting one coil at a time (with the engine off, then restart) in an effort to find a faulty coil. I should add that I recently replaced all plugs, so I knew they weren't the culprit. I thought I found a faulty coil, simply by sound, engine reaction and watching the vibrations of the open bonnet. The faulty coil part was right, the location was wrong.

In order to confirm my findings I took the car into a local well respected auto electrician. He's been in business for 32 years, he knows his stuff. He ran codes then came up with an 'Unknown Code'. Apparently this code comes up with e39's sometimes.
He started with the coils and soon came up with a faulty one, drivers side nearest the front. He confirmed it by removing and swapping with another.

New matching oem coil will be in this time tomorrow. Looking forward to all pots firing.

Another problem solvered.

So guys, before you go tipping a ton of folding into your ride with a bad idle by blindly replacing fuel filter, pump, vacuum seals, fuel, maf sensor, camshaft p s, etc etc maybe take an easier route and check out the coils, preferably with the help of your indy/dealer.

I'm not saying that all bad idles will end this way obviously, what I am saying is that there are easy, less expensive ways to find the fault.

GL to all you bad idlers out there.

I should at this time also add bb's invaluable link to all things misfiring. So in case you've missed it and maybe need it, here it is: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5804284&postcount=15
 
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#4 ·
edjack,
Correct, I didn't see the print out but the indy said it simply advised that there was an 'Unknown Code', def didn't say which cylinder.

Yes, the CEL was on. Flashed at start up then solid after a few minutes.
 
#5 ·
Yesterday ..... You know the one where you start the engine, take note of the current bad idle condition then go about disconnecting one coil at a time (with the engine off, then restart) in an effort to find a faulty coil.
What happens when you have left with only one coil connected? Does the engine still run??

edjack,
Correct, I didn't see the print out but the indy said it simply advised that there was an 'Unknown Code', def didn't say which cylinder.

Yes, the CEL was on. Flashed at start up then solid after a few minutes.
He probably didn't use a BMW diagnostic tool. Otherwise it would have told him exactly what cylinder it was. A BMW diagnostic tool would know all the codes that a BMW produces.

mw
 
#7 ·
What happens when you have left with only one coil connected? Does the engine still run??
Mat, fair comment. I guess I could of structured the sentence somewhat better. After you mentioned it, it does read sorta funny.

He probably didn't use a BMW diagnostic tool. Otherwise it would have told him exactly what cylinder it was. A BMW diagnostic tool would know all the codes that a BMW produces.
Agreed
mw
That's odd. Any generic OBDII code reader should spit out the code if the check engine light is on. I just went through this and on the same #5 cylinder, in fact. I take that back. You're right hand drive, so your bad coil was on #1. I did the simple tried and true test. Swap the suspect coil with another cylinder and see if the misfire code follows the coil. It did from #5 to #6. One new coil and she's smooth as silk again. Easy peasy.

Brett
The CEO pulled into the indy earlier today and waited for him to fit a new coil. She rang me about twenty minutes later and said it was like driving 'our old car' again.
So yeah we're also in the smooth as silk club.
 
#6 ·
That's odd. Any generic OBDII code reader should spit out the code if the check engine light is on. I just went through this and on the same #5 cylinder, in fact. I take that back. You're right hand drive, so your bad coil was on #1. I did the simple tried and true test. Swap the suspect coil with another cylinder and see if the misfire code follows the coil. It did from #5 to #6. One new coil and she's smooth as silk again. Easy peasy.

Brett