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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 10-10-2007, 11:10 AM
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Why you need to check your fan clutch NOW!

I made this post originally on BF.C when mine blew apart in July. I figured since winter is coming, I'd do you Fest members a service and show you what you DON'T want to be doing in the SNOW! Check your fan clutches, please!

Total parts:
Lower Rad Hose
Upper Rad Hose
Waterpump
Thermostat
Zionsville Radiator and Fan (or BMW fan, fan clutch, and shroud)
Power Steering Hoses
Oil Filter hose
Air-Filter Cover
MAF Sensor
Hood (luckily I got it fixed and re-painted for $250 with new sheet metal)
Air Quality Sensor
Engine Splash Shield (didn't bother.. but its cracked to hell)
Hood Insulation (didn't bother.. but I really should)

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Old 10-10-2007, 11:29 AM
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Thanks for the pics.
This is what I have been telling other people when doing cooling overhaul.
Any Fan Clutch beyond 100-120K....replace it anyway, not much life remaining...too risky to keep it.

The fan clutch usually fails in a different fashion: it fails to spin fast enough WHEN HOT....so overheat at idle.
Then if not taken care of, then the fan clutch explodes very much like a dis-integrating propeller blades of an aircraft at high speed.

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Old 10-10-2007, 11:29 AM
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let me switch to my 24" widescreen so i can see the "BIG" picture...
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:32 AM
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let me switch to my 24" widescreen so i can see the "BIG" picture...
I just bought one of those.. but a CRT. Can you believe it? In this day and age? Yep. I got a Sony Trinitron 24" Widescreen CRT.. Excellent monitor. Check it out here: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=952788
Originally MSRP'd for $2599.. Stopped manufacturing them in early 2004. Can pick up a B-Grade like I did for $248-300 on fleabay with 6 mos. warranty. Running at 1920x1200 85hz.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:36 AM
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My aux fan sounds like a jet preparing for takeoff when the engine heats up and I'm at idle. I've never had mine run hot, but I've just noticed some leakage around the top of the expansion tank. Replacing that on Friday; hopefully I won't find a damaged radiator when I replace the tank.....
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:38 AM
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I just bought one of those.. but a CRT. Can you believe it? In this day and age? Yep. I got a Sony Trinitron 24" Widescreen CRT.. Excellent monitor. Check it out here: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=952788
Originally MSRP'd for $2599.. Stopped manufacturing them in early 2004. Can pick up a B-Grade like I did for $248-300 on fleabay with 6 mos. warranty. Running at 1920x1200 85hz.
weight = 92.6 lbs

ARE YOU INSANE?!?!?? omg... i don't think both my monitors, my laptop, my speakers and the cablebox along with all my 5hit weights that much!!!!

but you know what? CRT picture quality > LCD
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:39 AM
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My aux fan sounds like a jet preparing for takeoff when the engine heats up and I'm at idle. I've never had mine run hot, but I've just noticed some leakage around the top of the expansion tank. Replacing that on Friday; hopefully I won't find a damaged radiator when I replace the tank.....
Heh, my aux fan doesn't even work.. Not that I care... I survived the 90 degree days of summer and winter is coming.. I'll worry about it next summer.

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weight = 92.6 lbs

ARE YOU INSANE?!?!?? omg...
but you know what? CRT picture quality > LCD
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:41 AM
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Heh, my aux fan doesn't even work.. Not that I care... I survived the 90 degree days of summer and winter is coming.. I'll worry about it next summer.



Yes and Yes.
winter is coming? it was 80 degrees at 3 am the other night. you sure winter is around the corner? i still see girls in skirts (mmmmmm....... skirts.....) around Washington Sq park. btw, i'm a big fan of those girls too!!
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:43 AM
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winter is coming? it was 80 degrees at 3 am the other night. you sure winter is around the corner? i still see girls in skirts (mmmmmm....... skirts.....) around Washington Sq park. btw, i'm a big fan of those girls too!!
Hmm.... you might have something there..
Either way... I tested everything and its definatley the fan motor.. I dont feel like shelling out 200 bucks for the damn aux fan.. And as you know, I've shown you an exhaust clip.. That means I'm thinking about that instead..Would you say that magnaflow you have is louder than the clip from earlier? Louder than the Remus, Supersprint, or Dinan? Not that I'd ever consider paying for one of those, but I'd consider not switching if it were.... - I do plan on keeping the center resonator tho.

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Old 10-10-2007, 11:48 AM
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Hmm.... you might have something there..
Either way... I tested everything and its definatley the fan motor.. I dont feel like shelling out 200 bucks for the damn aux fan.. And as you know, I've shown you an exhaust clip.. That means I'm thinking about that instead..Would you say that magnaflow you have is louder than the clip from earlier? Louder than the Remus, Supersprint, or Dinan? Not that I'd ever consider paying for one of those, but I'd consider not switching if it were.... - I do plan on keeping the center resonator tho.
if you're not busy friday, come on out to my place. having a few local bmw looneys over.

hearing it in person is different then on camera. not all record with the same quality.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:51 AM
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if you're not busy friday, come on out to my place. having a few local bmw looneys over.

hearing it in person is different then on camera. not all record with the same quality.
Friday... Friday... What time? 5pm+ is definatley out. Even in person I can't add an imaginary resonator in my head and see what that'd sound like.. lol
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:53 AM
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Friday... Friday... What time? 5pm+ is definatley out. Even in person I can't add an imaginary resonator in my head and see what that'd sound like.. lol
before 5 is fine. most likely be working on getting my car wax ready for the winter ppl claim we are going to have.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:54 AM
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before 5 is fine. most likely be working on getting my car wax ready for the winter ppl claim we are going to have.
Is there any good sushi around you? If so I'm sold.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:59 AM
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i think so... there's always YoHan's (Japanese super market) down the hill.
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:40 PM
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I know YoHan.. Cept he's a 6'4" White guy who works in irrigation installations.... cant be the same guy im thinkin...
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winter is coming? it was 80 degrees at 3 am the other night. you sure winter is around the corner? i still see girls in skirts (mmmmmm....... skirts.....) around Washington Sq park. btw, i'm a big fan of those girls too!!


Um, What night was that Dan? I was out a few nights ago and YES it was hot indeed. A fellow Bmw friend was sweatin like mad.
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yah and during that heat i had no a/c... unless the car is moving, i get no a/c... which leads me to believe the heat is building too much pressure in the a/c system, so when I drive it cools a bit thus lowering refridgerent pressure and then throws cold air.. no aux fan does kinda suck.. im thinking of just depleting the ozone layer a little bit to get the pressure a little lower tho..
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I know YoHan.. Cept he's a 6'4" White guy who works in irrigation installations.... cant be the same guy im thinkin...
He any good? we need to put in a sprinkler system next season...
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:07 PM
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:48 PM
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thanks for posting this up fragzem! Id already ordered a bunch of new cooling parts to have replaced but was going to skip the fan clutch and new plastic fan blade since both seem to be operational and fine. but you easily convinced me to spend the extra $135 for the parts with your pics and Ive already dropped $1000 on new parts to put in so who cares about another benjamin right?
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Um, What night was that Dan? I was out a few nights ago and YES it was hot indeed. A fellow Bmw friend was sweatin like mad.
i don't know... it was one of those nights i couldn't sleep so i went out to get gas only to find that i ran out of gas going to get gas.
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:01 AM
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your clutch fan

did you replace it yourself or do you know where i can find a how too.
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Old 10-11-2007, 06:26 AM
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DIY info is here:
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It is very long and has lots of details. Take your time to digest it.
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:06 AM
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Damn Fragzem- This has me thinking that when I do the change over I'd better get me a NHRA spec'ed scatter sheild for my hood. Even got your mass air meter eh-what a damn mess--I'm sure BMW will help on this--I never knew there was a problem like this with these cars until you had your first post concerning it--hope everything works out well with all the new stuff you have in there.
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