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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 11-27-2008, 05:04 PM
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How to buy BMW E39 wiper blade refills

What do you use when you need to replace your E39 wiper blade rubber inserts?

Went to the AutoZone near me but they didn't carry the 25" drivers side nor the 22" passenger side Trico or Anco wiper blades for my E39.

Looked 'em up on realoem to find the E39 wiper set of to be
- SET OF WIPER BLADES 61619070579 $50.78

But confusingly, the drivers side replacement part numbers are listed as
- WIPER BLADE RIGHT 61618209746 $30.13 +core
- WIPER BLADES 61618217711 $13.95

With the passenger side wiper part numbers just as confusingly listed as
- WIPER BLADE LEFT 61618209745 $30.13
- WIPER BLADES 61618217711 $13.95

Looking at the realoem picture below, I can't tell what the difference is between the various part numbers.

Can you edify me as to the answer to these questions?
1. What rubber refills (part number?) do YOU buy for your E39?
2. What is the difference between WIPER BLADE LEFT ($30) & WIPER BLADES ($14)?
3. Why does only the right side require a core charge and not the left side?


PS: It should be but I don't know why the title isn't "How to buy E39 25" driver side & 22" passenger side wiper refills"
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:13 PM
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The dealer is actually the best spot for wiper blades. Usually under 10$ if your just getting the rubber (no need for the blade to be replaced really)
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:14 PM
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Your best bet is to call the dealer. I've seen many posts in which members here pay less than $12 for both sides. They're called re-fill blade inserts, or something like that. Heck, I think they even install them for you free of charge.
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:38 PM
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Maybe the E39 blades are 22" and 26" instead of 22" & 25"?

Looking up more details, I see Euro Parts Direct says they are 26" and 22" respectively (instead of 25" and 22" as this bimmerfest thread says they are).

Wierdly, that bimmerfest thread says two odd things:
1. The dealer is cheaper (they say) than buying elsewhere
2. They trim a 26" Anco/Trico blade to 25 and 22 inches respectively

Can someone clarify the confusing information presented here?
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:48 PM
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I think the big wiper is 26 inches, what you posted above is replacements for the whole wiper blades. Again I suggest you just go to the dealer and buy the rubber inserts.
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Which part number is just the rubber wiper refill?

Ooops. We all posted at the same time. This is wierd information.

Which of those part numbers is just the rubber wiper refill anyway?

Seems that this bimmerfest wiper blade myth thread says the dealer is cheaper (for just the rubber part of the wipers). Wierd.

This bimmerfest thread discusses mixed results, some spending little and others a lot at the dealership (who is said in that thread to dremel the blades down to size for free). Even wierder.

And this thread suggests buying the wrong part and then cutting it down to size with metal clippers.

I really hate to go to my local dealer (stevens creek bmw) because of their known fraud ..... but it seems like the dealer is really the first place to go (or are they)? I can't bring myself to trust them after all they've done to my friends.
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:51 PM
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All your buying is rubber, its impossible and a waste of time and effort for them to defraud you on a lousy set of wiper refills. You can trust the dealer this time.
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Old 11-27-2008, 06:00 PM
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How long is the driver's side rubber insert anyway?

> How long are the BMW E39 wiper blade refills anyway

Wow, a quick search in http://www.mileoneparts.com for the part number 61618217711 shows TWO DIFFERENT lengths for the same part number

600mm (24") and 639mm (25") but not 660mm (26") as implied here.

I'm so confused!
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As mentioned several times. Go to the dealer to get them. I was charged less then $5.00 for a pair. The inserts actually have metal perforated tabs you break or cut off to the size you need.
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+++Dealer. I would almost never suggest going to the dealer for ANYTHING. But wiper blades, definitely yes. And don't worry about the size--you will need to cut them at the perforation notches to fit. First blade may take you about 8 minutes to install. The second one in about 2 minutes, once you get the idea.
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Old 11-27-2008, 08:16 PM
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Bluebee...it's really quite simple...just step back a bit and clear your head.

In the diagram below...item #1 is the WHOLE wiper blade mechanism which INCLUDES the metal part + the rubber blade (note how there's a braket for #1 that is connected to #2). The part nbr index below the diagram also indicates that there is a separate part nbr for #1 & #2.

Item #2 is the rubber "refill" that is made specifically for the different lengths for the left or right whole blade assembly.

Then BMW also sells a "generic" rubber refill (BMW part # 61 61 0 154 441) which is NOT listed in the online part database...and is the refill that several posters above are referring to. They cost (usually) around $3 each but they are the same length (right or left). The metal reinforcment piece that runs down the center of the rubber refill has pre-indented cuts that allow you to snap off the metal to the size that you need...then you just cut the rubber with a pair of scissors to match. (I HIGHLY recommend these refills). Check out how much they cost at the BMW websites you're familiar with like "mileoneparts.com" (BMW part # 61 61 0 154 441).

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Old 11-27-2008, 09:12 PM
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The BMW parts list and diagram is just plain wrong

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#1 is the WHOLE wiper blade mechanism which INCLUDES the metal part + the rubber blade. #2 is the rubber "refill" that is made specifically for the different lengths for the left or right whole blade assembly.
Aha! I think we can all agree that the realoem diagram is extremely confusing, to say the least! And so is the parts list, which calls everything a blade even when it's not a blade.

If #2 is the rubber of 26" and 22" lengths and #1 is both the metal of the same length and the rubber of the different lengths, then what that tells me is the diagram is just plain wrong.

The diagram shows the rubber on the wiper arm side, when, in reality, the rubber has to be on the opposite side of the wiper blade. Right?

And, I would wonder if even the parts numbers are wrong because the #1 part number is different for the left and right side but the #2 part number is the same (how can that possibly be if #2 includes the different-sized rubber refills for each side??????)

Luckily, your third part number should work out because of what you said about adjusting the size of the refills by snipping off at 26" and 22" respectively.

Why is something so simple so confusing when you look at the diagram and parts list?
I think both the diagram and the parts lists are just plain wrong. Hence the confusion.
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Old 11-27-2008, 09:33 PM
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I'll just buy two 26 inch lengths of BMW part number 61-61-0-154-441

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BMW also sells a "generic" rubber refill (BMW part # 61 61 0 154 441) which is NOT listed in the online part database
If I just plain assume that the realoem parts diagram is wrong (it has the wiper blade and wiper refill reversed) and that the parts numbers are wrong (they have the differently sized wiper refills for both sides as the same part number), then I am less confused.

If I then go against both experience and conventional wisdom, and assume the local BMW dealership (a known fraudulent operation at best) actually has the best quality rubber refills at the best prices (shockingly), then, again, I am even less confused.

Lastly, if I look up this NEW part number, 61.61.0.154.441, I do see it in the "Mile One" parts database for vastly less than the $45 that Kragen was going to charge me for wiper refills. Now, finally, I am not confused.

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I think you are making this out to be more difficult than it needs to be (though I agree the diagrams are confusing). Just go to the BMW dealer parts dept. and tell them you have an e39 and would like replacement wiper blade inserts and the parts dept. guy will know what to hand over to you.
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I agree that most dealers are reasonable when it comes to wiper blade inserts. However, there is the occasional stealer that never passes on an opportunity to maximize their profit (much like Wall St). Mine fits the latter category and it is painful to patronize a vendor with bad attitude.
I suggest you call their Parts Dept and get a quote. If it is reasonable, buy them. If not, go online (as I do) and get them there. Get your filters too and you'll probably get free shipping (& no tax).
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I agree with Fudman...some dealers won't miss an opportunity to gouge...so the BEST thing to do is ask for the SPECIFIC part nbr...in this case 61 61 0 154 441. If you go in and tell them you want refills for an e39...depending on the knowledge of the parts counter clerk...they may go into the database and pull up the part nbr from the diagram (61 61 8 217 711) which costs more money.

If you already know the BMW part nbr you want...ASK specifically for that number. Why? Because you already have knowledge of what it should cost on average, and that it fits your car etc. And it helps the clerk by not having to go in raw and look up the part nbr...which makes for a happy clerk.
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FWIW I bought my replacement inserts from BavAuto. But I paid like $20, I do think dealer is cheaper. But I understand where you're coming from re not wanting to give them business if you've been treated badly.

Another point though -- if they offer to put in, say Yes. I found threading through the metal tabs a little difficult and time consuming.
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Who would have thought there would be this long a thread on wipers?

FWIW, I replaced my blades at autohausaz.com. I replaced both the metal and rubber parts which came as one set for both sides as part # 3397001539 for $30.18.

The rubber blades are also available there as part # 61618217711 for $5.54/blade. These come as the 639mm (~25 inches) that you're supposed to trim down and this is the part that comes up if you enter 61 61 0 154 441 in their search box.
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Wipers are only simple if you don't question the data

Looking back on the answer to these questions?

1. What rubber refills (part number?) do YOU buy for your E39?
It looks like most of you buy from the local BMW dealer a quantity of two (2) BMW part number 61-61-0-154-441 (which is just the rubber wiper inserts), and then you cut the rubber down to 26" and 22" respectively.

2. What is the difference between WIPER BLADE LEFT ($30) & WIPER BLADES ($14)?
It looks like "WIPER BLADE LEFT" is both the metal and the rubber insert; while "WIPER BLADES" are just the rubber inserts. The different sized WIPER BLADE LEFT and WIPER BLADE RIGHT metal and rubber combination has different part numbers while the different sized WIPER BLADES for the left and right side have the same part number. Go figure.

3. Why does only the right side require a core charge and not the left side?
Nobody seems to know why but nobody mentions a core charge, so, yet again, the parts diagram and table must just be plain wrong (three times on one table gets a bit confusing).

4. Why is this thread long (some seem to have wondered).
If you don't try to make sense out of the data in the parts tables and diagrams, there's no need for this thread. However, if you're trying to make sense out of something that doesn't at first make sense, then, well, that inevitably takes some effort.

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I think they just didnt put too much effort into making the wiper blade table/diagram. Probably because they didnt think anyone would really care There seem to be a few confusing/unclear parts, sometimes you have to ignore things in life.....
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Just paid $4.40 cents each for three inserts for my 540it at the dealer. Easy enough to install. Now I can see who I just left behind in my rear glass.
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Just paid $4.40 cents each for three inserts for my 540it at the dealer. Easy enough to install. Now I can see who I just left behind in my rear glass.
Just curious...did they sell you a different wiper refill for the rear wiper? My dealer sold me 61 61 0 154 440 for the rear...and 61 61 0 154 441 for the front.
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The local dealership won't even answer their telephone

Will try to stop by the local dealership (they guys that defrauded my friends) because the dealership parts department doesn't even answer the phone (888-648-3446).

I've called them four times this morning ... and all I can do is leave a message.

So, not only did they defraud my friends, but this local dealership (Stevens Creek BMW) doesnt' even answer their phone.

Wow. They couldn't make this harder.

BTW, I measured the wipers on my 2002 525i E39 to be roughly 25" and 22" (not 26" and 22").
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