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Normal Operating Temperature for 2007 X3 N52

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#1 ·
Hey Everyone,

About four weeks ago I started noticing my radiator fan would come on and sound like a jet engine from time to time. I took it to an indy mechanic to have it hooked up to the diagnostic computer and look for codes. They said there was a fault with the radiator fan and that they could never get it to come on. They said the fan was getting power and a signal, but just wasn't working. They told me that they could get a new fan installed for about $750.00. I chose to order it and do it myself, since it is only about a 10 minute process.

During the time that I had a mechanic looking at it, I learned about the hidden dashboard menu, Unlock 19, push to 7.0, to view the engine temp in C.

I gingerly drove the X3 about 5 miles home. While viewing the hidden menu, it stayed pretty steady around 100* C. However, I got stuck at a long red light and it went up to 117* C. I noticed the the temperature needle started moving to the right a little, but no light came on. Once I accelerated, the temp went down to around 102*.

I ordered a new fan from ECS Tuning for $525 and installed it this past Friday. I drove around a little Friday night and the temp was always below 103* C.

Today, I put it to its test by driving it 50 miles each way to work. The engine heated up and stayed consistently between 98* C - and 105* C. However, at one point driving about 45 MPH it did go up to 108* C.

My question to you is this normal for the N52 engine? Is consistently running about 98* - 105* C normal? Is the 108* C okay too?

I've got to drive about 275 miles tomorrow, so I just want to make sure.

Thanks
 
#2 ·
The normal operating temp for the N52 is rougly 95-110°, towards the higher end when under light load and towards the lower end when the engine is asked to do more. However, it shouldn't really go to 118°. The AKI of the fuel will affect this (engine runs a tad cooler with lower AKI such as regular or midgrade versus premium).

The coolant temp on the E83 and prior BMWs is buffered and really just an idiot light. There is no "middle ground" between normal and overheat- it generally stays at middle right up to the point where it swings to "overheat".
 
#3 · (Edited)
Sometimes the failure is caused by the thermostat. When the thermostat valve gets stuck or aged, it doesn't open properly. I normally test out this by removing the thermostat when the engine is cold, put the housing back and seal it, run the engine till it's warm and see if it will still get overheating. If not, change the thermostat.

If you have changed the coolant yourself, if the new coolant is not diluted enough, say more than 50%, the engine may also run hotter.
 
#5 ·
Thanks for all of the replies everyone. I have now driven it about 500 miles since changing the fan. It appears that the normal operating temp for my X3 is between 97* - 105* C with occasional peaks up to 108*. This seems in line with the responses.

oldskool3: To access the hidden menu. On the gauge cluster you have two button. Hold down the left button (S/R) for about 10 seconds. You will see the word test on the cluster LCD. Hit the (S/R) button 19 times, you will see a number on the right side of the LCD that corrseponds to the number of clicks. Once you get to 19, hold down the right button (oil) for about a second or so. The screen will alternate between off and on. When it shows off, quickly let go of the right button and push the S/R button. The number will change to 0. Push the S/R button seven times until it shows 7.0 on the screen.

It will then show the coolant temp in C.

Here is a copy and paste description of each of the various menus. Please note, that I have only had information show up on items 3-19. I've never been able to access items in the 1.0 range.

Good Luck!


1 Car Engine and cluster data
1.0 46nnn Chassis nr/VIN serial number (last 5 digits)
1.1 4nnn K-number
1.2 690236 Cluster Part #
1.3 045210 Coding (04)/diagnosis (52)/bus index (10)
1.4 1200 Week (12)/year of manufacture (2000)
1.5 09_160 Hardware (09) and software # (16.0) of cluster
1.6 Not used
1.7 04__44 CAN-version (04) KI-revision index (44)
2 (test) Cluster System Test - Activates the gauge drivers,
indicators and LEDs to confirm function
3 SI Data
3.0 1098 Used fuel in liters since last SI (Service Inspection)
3.1 0231 Periodic inspection days; elapsed days (since last SI)
4 Momentary Consumption
4.0 0145+ Instant fuel consumption - 0145=14.5 liters/100km
4.1 0018 Instant fuel consumption - 0018=1.8 l/Hour
5 Distance Gone Consumption
5.0 082 Average mileage; 082=8.2 liters/100km
5.1 0536 Calc. km to refuel (momentary distance to go)
6 Fuel Level sensor inputs in liters
6.0 109330+ Fuel level averaged; Left half sensor input=10.9 liters; Right sensor input=33.0 liters
6.1 0439+ Total tank level averaged; vlgs 6.0: 10.9+33.0=43.9 liters
6.2 0442+ Indicated value (44.2) and tank phase
7 Temperature and Speed
7.0 021+ Coolant/Engine temperature (2.1C)
7.1 130 Ambient/Outside temperature - chg met 5 pts. 125/130/135
7.2 + Engine speed / Current RPMs 1/min
7.3 + Vehicle speed / Current Speed in km/hour
8 Input value in HEX form
8.0 1d0+ System voltage ADC-Value Hex code
8.1 26C33C+ ADC Values HG left/HG right
8.2 0000 ADC Value brake degradation sensor (000=o.k.)
8.3 18C ADC Value outside temperature
9 Battery
9.0 140 Battery Voltage - 140 = UB 14.0v
9.1 242013+?
9.2 074_78+?
9.3 0011+?
10 Not used
11 Not used
12 Not used
13 GonG Gong Test
14 Not used
15 Status cluster I/O-ports (bit codes) 0=low; 1=high
1st-belt contact, seat belt fastened=0; 2) ignition lock contact, key inserted=0; 3) door contact, door open=0; 4) clock button pressed=0; 5) SI reset=0, for reset=0; 6) EGS transmission failure=0
Status Digital Outputs (bits) 0=inactive, 1=active
1) Gong output; 2) Brake warning lamp; 3) Low fuel warning lamp; 4) EGA lamp; 5) seat belt lamp; 6) manipulation dot
16 Not used
17 Not used
18 Not used
19 Lock Status; unlocks functions in range 3-18
19.0 L-On/L-Off Unlock: press button when "L-Off"
20 Not used
21 Software Reset; reset OBC settings
00 End of test
 
#6 ·
Or you can buy a $25 wifi or Bluetooth OBDII reader off amazon, with a free app for you smartphone, and it will let you see live data, such as coolant temp and system voltage, (and much more) and do a nice graph.