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Too many miles for a 2008 BMW 335i?

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#1 ·
I'm looking to buy a 2008 BMW 335i with 124,000 miles. It's a super good looking car that the owner says runs strong and great. Average should be about 90-100k miles but how reliable are these 335i'. I know of the basic issues such as the hpfp but will these engines last a long time? I'm also looking to make very big hp out of this car. I plan on definitely building the engine once I'm looking for very high hp but will it still be fairly reliable as I approach about 400-450 whp without rebuilding the engine?

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#6 ·
I have 110K on my 535, and I maintain it very well. It is still as solid as a rock, still has that acceleration that I want, still runs smoothly, and could easily pass for a car half its age with half its miles.

My car has been garaged when not used. That makes a difference.

If the car is still solid, never in an accident, was well maintained, and gets thoroughly checked by a competent BMW mechanic, it is not necessarily a problem.
 
#9 ·
Yeah, you will get a lot of bs replies from guys who say absolutely nothing.

I have a 2009 335i with 123000 on it.
I have had zero problems with the car. I bought it new maintained well with 5k oil changes and filters.

From what I know is that you should stay away from cars that have been modified. Turbos are the weak spot on these engines. Extra pressure, abuse, or lack of maintenance and you will have problems.

I had an Audi 1.8 turbo that I sold with 221,000 miles. A 335 engine properly maintained should go at least that.
 
#12 ·
Yeah, you will get a lot of bs replies from guys who say absolutely nothing.

I have a 2009 335i with 123000 on it.

I have had zero problems with the car. I bought it new maintained well with 5k oil changes and filters.

From what I know is that you should stay away from cars that have been modified. Turbos are the weak spot on these engines. Extra pressure, abuse, or lack of maintenance and you will have problems.

I had an Audi 1.8 turbo that I sold with 221,000 miles. A 335 engine properly maintained should go at least that.
Okay thanks for the help and useful reply!

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#13 ·
But we have NA cars!

Surprisingly, there haven't been a lot of threads about turbos grenading. I found this thread but the motor was modified.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137302

I have a beater Volvo turbo with 211K that I drive to and park on the beach when the weather is icky. It has the original turbo/engine/transmission and clutch. So of course it can last. Only question is how much do you want to spend doing so.
 
#16 ·
I have seen owners with JB4+ and Meth running engines well past 100K miles.
I think the car is solid but as you know there will be issues to address, gaskets, coils, water pump .... I don't think its too expensive to keep these engines going for miles, especially if you DYI. Makes no sense to pay for someone to replace a coil.
 
#20 ·
I'm looking to buy a 2008 BMW 335i with 124,000 miles. It's a super good looking car that the owner says runs strong and great. Average should be about 90-100k miles but how reliable are these 335i'. I know of the basic issues such as the hpfp but will these engines last a long time? I'm also looking to make very big hp out of this car. I plan on definitely building the engine once I'm looking for very high hp but will it still be fairly reliable as I approach about 400-450 whp without rebuilding the engine
Bop on over to N54TECH
 
#29 · (Edited)
The N54 is almost a "bullet proof" engine. They were built with forged internals so the engine (I.e block & heads) will generally have 0 issues if maintained properly. But it is a "high performance" engine so IT MUST be maintained meticulously. (FYI the N54 is a 5 time "Engine of the year" award winner). There are 335i's hitting 6-700 #'s and the valve cover has never been removed- the N54 is that solid.

You will noticed that the big issues are NOT with the engine but with all the bits feeding the engine such as the fuel pump & water pump. This is why maintenance records are important because most have had the fuel pump replaced under warranty.

There are a few complaints with the turbos going out but this is almost always with modified cars that are driven hard and or raced.

Being BMW's these cars are simply more expensive to maintain. The parts are just twice as expensive as mass production cars. You must factor that part in, especially the walnut blasting, but an oil catch can & tier 1 fuel will help a lot with that. Many daily drivers have simply never had the vales cleaned. You need to verify you can access Walnut blasting in your area & the cost. ESPECIALLY if you, as you say, are planning on any serious upgrades. Carbon build up on valves is just a side effect of Direct Injection. I know cars with over 100k miles that have never had this done and run "fine". But the're also babied and never driven aggressively. Many ppl never realize they are missing 20 hp. But many performance shops will not touch you car until this has been done because none of the aftermarket parts will work to there full potential if the car isn't breathing properly.

The biggest issue with a car over 100k is just how many miles do YOU drive. The ENGINE will easily last 200k +, but how soon will you see that. 20k a year, no problem. 40 or more may be a problem.

Back to the maintenance. Please prepare for at least $1-2k your first year, especially if you can't verify that the fuel pump was replaced and that the 100k mile service wasn't completed. The 100k mile maintenance is paramount as everything (plugs, fuel filter, etc) were basically designed for 100k miles & ALL will need to be replaced, many requiring special tools. If you don't have those tools or are not mechanically inclined you may be looking at a money pit. And all this will need to be done before you start throwing performance parts at it and increase your power.

There is a reason these cars are called the "super cars" of the compact world. But "super cars" are notoriously moody. I like to say my 335i is like a high maintenance porn star girl friend. She looks great and will do anything you ask but she requires CONSTANT Love, Affection & MONEY, lol. So you better have a good job and big credit card!

If you don't look forward to being under your car on weekends or don't have a few grand laying around, a high mileage 335 is NOT your car. But your question was how long will the engine last. The answer is as long as you keep it maintained.

That all being said, after your initial $1-2k to get it back to 100%, you can hit the 450-500 #'s your talking about for a little over $1500 (not including exhaust) in parts if your savy and can do a lot of the work yourself. Then it's pretty smooth sailing & you'll have that "porn star girl friend", lol.
 
#31 ·
The N54 is almost a "bullet proof" engine. They were built with forged internals so the engine (I.e block & heads) will generally have 0 issues if maintained properly. But it is a "high performance" engine so IT MUST be maintained meticulously. (FYI the N54 is a 5 time "Engine of the year" award winner)

You will noticed that the big issues are NOT with the engine but with all the bits feeding the engine such as the fuel pump & water pump. This is why maintenance records are important because most have had the fuel pump replaced under warranty.

There are a few complaints with the turbos going out but this is almost always with modified cars that are driven hard and or raced.

Being BMW's these cars are simply more expensive to maintain. You must factor that part in, especially the walnut blasting, but an oil catch can & tier 1 fuel will help a lot with that. You need to verify you can access Walnut blasting in your area & the cost. ESPECIALLY if you, as you say, are planning on any serious upgrades. Carbon build up on valves is just a side effect of Direct Injection. I know cars with over 100k miles that have never had this done and run "fine". But the're also babied and never driven aggressively. Many ppl never realize they are missing 20 hp.

The biggest issue with a car over 100k is just how many miles do YOU drive. The ENGINE will easily last 200k +, but how soon will you see that.

Back to the maintenance. Please prepare for at least $1-2k your first year, especially if you can't verify that the fuel pump was replaced and that the 100k mile service wasn't completed. The 100k mile maintenance is paramount as everything (plugs, fuel filter, etc) were basically designed for 100k miles & ALL will need to be replaced, many requiring special tools. If you don't have those tools or are not mechanically inclined you may be looking at a money pit.

There is a reason these cars are called the "super cars" of the compact world. But "super cars" are notoriously moody. I like to say my 335i is like a high maintenance porn star girl friend. She looks great and will do anything you ask but she requires CONSTANT Love, Affection & MONEY, lol. So you better have a good job and big credit card!

If you don't look forward to being under your car on weekends or don't have a few grand laying around, a high mileage 335 is NOT your car. But your question was how long will the engine last. The answer is as long as you keep it maintained.
Well said! I do my own maintenance and everything you mentioned i physically done including a spec+3 clutch M-factory flywheel replacement!!! I love mine's and i don't baby nothing" I force it to perform!!

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#33 ·
I'm looking to buy a 2008 BMW 335i with 124,000 miles. It's a super good looking car that the owner says runs strong and great. Average should be about 90-100k miles but how reliable are these 335i'. I know of the basic issues such as the hpfp but will these engines last a long time? I'm also looking to make very big hp out of this car. I plan on definitely building the engine once I'm looking for very high hp but will it still be fairly reliable as I approach about 400-450 whp without rebuilding the engine?
Reliability....compared to....what? Abysmal compared to Honda. Excellent vs. Ferrari.

You'd do well to back off ultra high horsepower - have a look at how you gonna put that to pavement. Stock 335i in no way does well, except at zero thrust angle. Investigate what M division does different.

Hint: It's torque you want.
 
#34 · (Edited)
Horsepower is simply a function of torque and revs. HP=(ft lbs***8226;rpm)/5252

To say that you only want torque, but not power is preposterous. You can't have power without torque AND revs. This is why you can make tons of torque with a 454 BBC, but make less power than a 5.2 Voodoo.

Yes, torque is what does the moving, but that's why we have gears.

Power is what matters, providing you know how to shift.

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The N54 is the right platform if your goal is big HP. If you prevent detonation, 600 is easily within reach (stock block).