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ZF S5-31 5-speed transmission: shift pins

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#1 ·
I recently did some work to try to improve the shifting in my 01 MZ3 (new LT-2 fluid, new clutch master cylinder, new transmission mounts, fresh bleed, etc.). Andy's 02 Z3C car had been my benchmark of "correct" shifting effort. Andy drove my car on Friday and thought my car now shifts better than his. I am still skeptical.

I have resisted the BMW TSB on shift pins because (1) I don't trust any of the local dealers and (2) replacing the shift pins with a new set of the exact same shift pins sort of implies the problem will come back sooner or later.

In discussing the situation with my dad, he pointed out that on the ZF parts diagram from their website (see page 14 of this document: http://www.zf.com/na/Home/M9/M12/M27/M367/S531.pdf, also copied below for reference)...
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... ZF is showing 3 bushings (circled in orange) that the shift pins ride in. Compare this to the view of BMW's EPC:

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BMW only shows a bushing for one of the three shift pins. EPC quantities agree with the diagram. If this is true, 2 of the 3 shift pins have an aluminum bearing surface, which would be a really poor choice. If you read the ZF document carefully, it implies that some BMW transmissions have 3 bushings, but not all. I am going to call ZF and see if anyone will talk to me about this.

Also reference page 17 of the ZF document to see the ZF version of BMW's TSB on the shift pins. I am going to order a set of shift pins from BMW (about ~$30 of parts) to see if there is a difference between shift pin (specifically, the diameters) item 28 and 26.
 
#3 ·
I bought all the parts & tools to do Daniel's (and one other car; both mine were done by Yark), but we haven't gotten around to it yet.

Daniel gave me the part numbers based on TIS/SEB info, but there weren't enough pin sets, so I ordered four (4) more sets.
 
#6 ·
I ordered and finally received part 28 and part 27 from BMW.

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Both were backordered. 28 is the 048 part number kit of 3 parts that Ron shows. 27 is a pin by itself, but it is a different size pin than the one that comes in the kit of 3.

The outside diameter of 27 is about the same size as the OD of the bushing included in 28. At least from BMW's EPC, it appears 27 does not use a bushing.

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Ron's guess is that all 3 shift pins use the bushing, but I don't think we will know for sure until someone gets in there. You would certainly think that the shift pins that use bushings work better than the ones without. There is some kind of coating on the ID of the bushing.
 

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#7 ·
Maybe that's the upgrade; switch over the non bushing plungers to bushing ones?

We still haven't done Daniel's yet. In fact, we haven't seen him since the last time we saw you & Ron (and about another thousand Z owners).
 
#8 ·
I ordered the pins a while back. I plan on a group of items when its time for a clutch, lightweight flywheel, shift pins, shift linkage bushings etc., guibo, and possibly a few other things.

I will have to look if I bought bushings for all the pins. I also bought the tools to remove the pins. there were several if I remember correctly.
 
#10 · (Edited)
Sib 23 03 02



SIB 23 03 02 covers the shift pin replacement and SIB 23 01 04 covers the diagnosis.

SI B 23 03 02
Manual Transmissions
January 2003
Service Engineering
Manual Transmission Hard to Shift
MODELS:
***8226; E36/7 Z3, M52B28, M54B30, S52, S54, with S5D320Z transmission from start of production until 3/02
***8226; E39 M52B28, M54B30 with S5D320Z transmission from start of production until 3/02
***8226; E39 Touring M54B25 with S5D320Z transmission from start of production until 3/02
***8226; E46 M52B28, M54B30 with S5D320Z transmission from start of production until 3/02
***8226; E53 M54B30 with S5D280Z transmission from start of production until 3/02

SITUATION:
Increased effort is required to engage and/or disengage gears with transmission at operating temperature. Please refer to SIB23 01 99 when diagnosing shifting concerns.

CAUSE:
Shifting pin sticks in bore.

CORRECTION:
On a customer basis, replace catch pins for 1st/2nd, 3rd/4th, 5th/reverse gears.

PROCEDURE:
Refer to BMW repair instructions 23 30... Note: This repair procedure can be accessed by entering the repair instruction number, or proceeding to repair group 23, subgroup 11 of the appropriate series. The transmission must be removed to replace the catch pins. BMW Special Tool 23 3 110 is necessary to perform this procedure, and will be distributed to all BMW centers via automatic tool shipment.

PARTS INFORMATION:
Code:
PART NUMBER DESCRIPTION QUANTITY

23 11 7 525 048 Catch pins 3
07 11 9 937 227 Sealing cap 3

WARRANTY INFORMATION:
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

Defect code: 23 00 94 34 00

Labor Operation: 00 53 399 (Main Work) - Replace shifter catch pins
Labor Allowance:
- 32 FRUs (E36/7 Z3)
- 35 FRUs (E36/7 M Coupe, M Roadster)
- 32 FRUs (E39 525i, 530i)
- 33 FRUs (E39 528i)
- 34 FRUs (E39 525iT, 528iT)
- 40 FRUs (E46 328i/ci/cic, 330i/ci/cic)
- 58 FRUs (E46 330xi)
- 55 FRUs (E53 X5 3.0)

Labor Operation: 00 53 973 (+Associated Work) - Replace shifter catch pins
- 30 FRUs (E36/7 Z3)
- 33 FRUs (E36/7 M Coupe, M Roadster)
- 30 FRUs (E39 525i, 530i)
- 31 FRUs (E39 528i)
- 32 FRUs (E39 525iT, 528iT)
- 38 FRUs (E46 328i/ci/cic, 330i/ci/cic)
- 56 FRUs (E46 330xi)
- 53 FRUs (E53 X5 3.0)

Note: the following explanations will spell out the correct use of the work times.

Main work: Use this labor operation number when the only repair performed is the listed warranty repair.

+Associated work: Use this labor operation number when other repairs or services are performed along with the listed warranty repair. Under no circumstances should both labor operation numbers be claimed. Attempts to claim both times will result in an unnecessary delay in claim processing and payment.

I had the pins changed out under warranty and the shifting improved noticeably.