[Mrharrod]

Hi guys!

I have been following this thread with great interest (good work schpenxel!) and looking to upgrade my CCC to CIC. I found a kit on ebay for my E61 2007 LCI.

This is the description...

" Set will include:
1) CIC headunit for E6x cars. (CIC)
2) CIC monitor for E6x cars. (CID)
3) Video wire CIC to CID.
4) USB slot (USB)
5) Connection wire USB to CIC
6) Navigation activation
7) iDrive controller
8) Installed 2014 maps for your region

For additional 150GBP we can precode cic unit to your car vin number so everything will be plug and play. Navigation activation is without hardware!! "

Now, I am getting really confused by the VIN, activation stuff.

The guy selling the quipment has said Voice activation not possible, it can be done with emualator. This is what really throws me!

Dear caudime (me),

hi, yes voice control activation not possible. it can be done with emulator emulator price is 100gbp

My understanding of an emualtor, is that the VIN inside the CIC unit would not be the same as my car, so you use an emulator to trick the CIC in believing both VINs marry(?)

The guy selling the kit said for an extra £150, he would precode the CIC to my VIN, so how would an emualtor (for which he quoted an additional £100 for voice) be of any good??

As you can probably see, I'm getting confused perhaps.
Any advise would be grand.

Just to add - My existing setup is TCU with BMW assist (never used) and bluetooth, Navi professional CCC.

Thanks!

 

[schpenxel]

Hi guys!

I have been following this thread with great interest (good work schpenxel!) and looking to upgrade my CCC to CIC. I found a kit on ebay for my E61 2007 LCI.

This is the description...

Now, I am getting really confused by the VIN, activation stuff.

The guy selling the quipment has said Voice activation not possible, it can be done with emualator. This is what really throws me!

My understanding of an emualtor, is that the VIN inside the CIC unit would not be the same as my car, so you use an emulator to trick the CIC in believing both VINs marry(?)

The guy selling the kit said for an extra £150, he would precode the CIC to my VIN, so how would an emualtor (for which he quoted an additional £100 for voice) be of any good??

As you can probably see, I'm getting confused perhaps.
Any advise would be grand.

Just to add - My existing setup is TCU with BMW assist (never used) and bluetooth, Navi professional CCC.

Thanks!

I've only read one case of someone ordering a CIC "pre coded" on ebay, and the results weren't so good.. If you know how to work with NCS Expert yourself, I'd just get the emulator and skip the coding. That's just what I would do though.

 

[maddios]

wow, what a great thread! I'm drooling over doing this on my 06 M5

I have a billion questions at this point but the main one, I'm pretty sure somewhere in the thread someone said that the e9x CIC would work in an e60, is that right? Obviously the face of it will not fit the e60 panel but otherwise will it all work the same?

As for combox, my m5 has BT already, does that mean I already have the wires and just switch out the BT unit for the combox?

Sorry for the possibly dumb questions but I've only started reading tonight and I'm trying to get my head wrapped around all of the parts of this car.

My previous car was an e34 540 so quite a huge technology jump. :angel:

 

[Augster]

Any chance you can fix the links to your older photos? They are all no longer viewable :-(

 

[schpenxel]

Any chance you can fix the links to your older photos? They are all no longer viewable :-(

Sorry, my photobucket account keeps going over the free limit. I'll pay to upgrade it for a few months in the next few days. That should bring all the pictures back for a while at least

 

[larry_bml]

Hello, maybe I post this in an wrong thread, but I'm asking anyway and please moderators, move this post in the right thread if I'm wrong.

I've made my own retrofit from CCC to CIC on my E90 2006. I've activated the VIM for it. Now my problem is HOW TO CHANGE DVD CHAPTERS WHILE PLAYING DVD?

I have an DVD with music videos , but I can't change chapters.

Any idea? I need a special made DVD or what?

Thank you.

 

[schpenxel]

Sorry, my photobucket account keeps going over the free limit. I'll pay to upgrade it for a few months in the next few days. That should bring all the pictures back for a while at least

Apparently this thread and the engine rebuild thread must be getting a lot of activity--I went from 0% to exceeding my free bandwidth allocation (I think that's 10gb of bandwidth) in under a week.

I went ahead and renewed my subscription on photobucket which should give me unlimited bandwidth. I'll leave it subscribed for the next few months at least..

I don't have any plans (or reason) to ever delete the photos, so at worst they may eventually just have periods where they don't show up

 

[tonyd2ad]

Hey Schpenxel,

I just did the CIC install in my 06 E63 M6. I have it working but it doesnt have any sound as of right now. Can you help me?

 

[schpenxel]

Hey Schpenxel,

I just did the CIC install in my 06 E63 M6. I have it working but it doesnt have any sound as of right now. Can you help me?

What have you done so far? Just physically installed it? What coding, if any?

It's almost certainly a coding issue. If the CIC came out of a car with logic7 and yours doesn't have that, then it won't be sending audio out properly to the speakers

Also, sorry to all about the PM's being full--for better or worse they seem to fill up faster now that I'm not around as much. The 100 message limit is a bit ridiculous IMO. If paying for a membership raised it to a real number I'd just pay for it, but 200 isn't really going to help much either

 

[carl0s]

You are the man!

I just bought an ICOM too and upgraded everything on my 545i. It now says "Last treated by: ISTA-P 2.52.2.002." Was CIP 15 before! It now plays MP3s from the DVD drive at least! Strangely I didn't need to code the feature.. I was about to, and it started playing as soon as I put a disc in!

Anyway, we seem to have similar cars (and similar problems along the way!) I also have M-ASK with Logic 7 (and business navigation).

I just bought a CIC controller.

Do you think the CIC controller will work with M-ASK? Just so that I can get that little job done / out of the way until I feel like chucking a load of money at the rest of the kit? I know the connector is different..

 

[540is]

after a CIC retrofit in E60 - Should i use the old TV module (for CCC) - or get a new one for GT F10 F11... (cars with CIC from factory) ?

 

[schpenxel]

You are the man!

I just bought an ICOM too and upgraded everything on my 545i. It now says "Last treated by: ISTA-P 2.52.2.002." Was CIP 15 before! It now plays MP3s from the DVD drive at least! Strangely I didn't need to code the feature.. I was about to, and it started playing as soon as I put a disc in!

Anyway, we seem to have similar cars (and similar problems along the way!) I also have M-ASK with Logic 7 (and business navigation).

I just bought a CIC controller.

Do you think the CIC controller will work with M-ASK? Just so that I can get that little job done / out of the way until I feel like chucking a load of money at the rest of the kit? I know the connector is different..

AH what the heck.. just 3 months late

Yes, I think it will work. I could be wrong, but I'm almost certain some of the last E60's came with MASK and the newer style "CIC" controller.. so it should be possible

 

[djcwardog]

CIC Buttons no longer lit?

I have a pre-LCI car and just like many others, I tapped into the power wire for lights from the hazard switch and ran a wire down to CIC pin 14 to make my CIC buttons backlit just like the others in the car - until a couple days ago.

I pulled out the CIC just to check connections. I still had ( ~5v is what I measured?) voltage on the jumper wire I had routed down to the CIC harness area, so I wonder if the bulb/LED has gone out inside that panel.

Is 5v too low - perhaps it is a cold solder joint up where I spliced into the hazard harness? If that is not it, then has anyone else lost their lights and solved it? Perhaps you can open up the back of the black panel (volume knob and buttons on the front of it) that clicks into place on the CIC to get to the bulbs/LEDS? Or will that be impossible, so you have to find a donor piece to swap in? If that is it, anyone have a good source for the part?

Amazing that we are now dealing with retrofit parts wearing out?

Thanks!

 

[vadimr]

I have a pre-LCI car and just like many others, I tapped into the power wire for lights from the hazard switch and ran a wire down to CIC pin 14 to make my CIC buttons backlit just like the others in the car - until a couple days ago.

I pulled out the CIC just to check connections. I still had ( ~5v is what I measured?) voltage on the jumper wire I had routed down to the CIC harness area, so I wonder if the bulb/LED has gone out inside that panel.

Is 5v too low - perhaps it is a cold solder joint up where I spliced into the hazard harness? If that is not it, then has anyone else lost their lights and solved it? Perhaps you can open up the back of the black panel (volume knob and buttons on the front of it) that clicks into place on the CIC to get to the bulbs/LEDS? Or will that be impossible, so you have to find a donor piece to swap in? If that is it, anyone have a good source for the part?

Amazing that we are now dealing with retrofit parts wearing out?

Thanks!

The part you are referring to is 65839206068. I highly doubt it's defective, I'm leaning towards the fact you have a bad connection somewhere, either in your quadlock or your source.

Good luck.

 

[ChrizLoud]

I have a CIC from a E90 that i want to use in my E60 LCI.

Instead of buying a new CIC front panel facia for E60 from dealer can i instead use a M-ask II (buisness CD) frontpanel for E60 instead?
They look the same and also the connector?

Here is a shot from the rear. Anyone with a E60 CIC frontpanel that can compare?

Thanks!

 

[kewill0360]

I have a CIC from a E90 that i want to use in my E60 LCI.

Instead of buying a new CIC front panel facia for E60 from dealer can i instead use a M-ask II (buisness CD) frontpanel for E60 instead?
They look the same and also the connector?

Here is a shot from the rear. Anyone with a E60 CIC frontpanel that can compare?

Thanks!

From my 535...

 

[maron]

hi

Front panel problem to the exclusion.

Can I retrofit E90 CIC to E60?

 

[ChrizLoud]

Kewill: Thanks! I havent tried the M-ASK panel on the CIC yet but since i dint find any to try with i think i will order a new CIC-panel from BMW for E60.
Maron: Yes, if you buy a frontpanel for E60.. The CIC are the same for both E60 and E90 but the front panel differs.

 

[maron]

ChrizLoud :Thanks to immediate answer

 

[Nelson@ModMyNav]

great tutorial!!