[Carter650i]

I could not get the independent climate control to work.. if anyone knows how please share.

 

[djcwardog]

I'm not sure why everyone likes HD radio.. Audio quality wise it's worse than regular.. HD stands for hybrid digital, not high def.

Anyways. I believe you have misunderstood the whole VIN thing on the cic.

The vin I posted info on earlier was how to find the vin that the cic originally came out of. You need this in order to buy a code to update your maps to a newer version.

I guess I did... So if using an emulator for nav and voice, then no worries about vin from donor car, just follow your DIY? Do an FA Write to CAS and LMA to Change VO to think car is newer, from 9/2006 for me to, say 9/2009?

 

[schpenxel]

Weird.. I'm not sure then. You're working with an lci model right? Mine was pre-lci so I didn't have to do anything to climate control

 

[schpenxel]

I guess I did... So if using an emulator for nav and voice, then no worries about vin from donor car, just follow your DIY? Do an FA Write to CAS and LMA to Change VO to think car is newer, from 9/2006 for me to, say 9/2009?

Yep.

You will still need a code to do map updates, but that's it

On the voice control side, if the donor didn't have it then it won't have it on yours. Found that out the hard way

I think there's a way to install a voice/nav code from a different vin to get it going if you can find one, but I haven't tried it

 

[Carter650i]

even if you have the emulator like I do and schpenxel you still need the cic vin number which can be obtain by followed schpenexl steps on a previous post using tools32 very straight forward like 1 min procedures.

 

[Carter650i]

btw my cic went off last night while I was driving, due to some sloppy job on how i previously installed the emulator. all i did was cut the wires and tape the ends together. lmao ... this morning I took it apart and followed schpenxel way, it works like a charm.... @schpenxel can you tell me another way I can get the front plate to lid because the one you sent my way the first time doesn't seems to work for me. every time I did it the front lights turn on but the cic dont fire up. and when took it out it works. I don't know if its because I tap in the blinker wire instead of go to the pin it self. IDK

 

[Carter650i]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281153659471?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 here's my other US spec cic for sale.

 

[schpenxel]

Try changing these on the CIC to aktiv

HVAC_Independent_Air and HVAC_Independent_Heating

 

[Carter650i]

yea i already try these, didnt work

 

[schpenxel]

I'm out of ideas then lol

 

[djcwardog]

Updates to Full Parts List?

Folks,

As this thread has progressed and from reading these 4 pages and swapping PM's yesterday with Carter650i, I looked up what I could and here is what I think is a partial listing:

CIC unit (various)
Display ("CID") - 65829211969 (from Schpenxel's photos) ***8211; price new***8230;$1,913.18 (find used!)
iDrive controller (various) ~$100 on eBay - a couple of California sellers
CID CAN/power connector ***8220;socket housing***8221; (61136954526) - $2.88
CIC cable, connects to CID for video signal (61119185171) - $38.50
USB Port ***8220;USB Socket***8221; (61319167196, superseded by 84109237656 ) - $26.50
USB Port cable ***8220;cable set for USB***8221; (61129196805) - $25.90

Aftermarket Parts (quotes are from schpenxel):
CAN emulator to activate navigation, (find on eBay, UK or China) - ~$100
Updated 2013 maps (find online, put them on a 32GB USB drive) - Free
FSC code for updating maps (find on internet for < $50) - $49 but can't put it in until the system detects a USB drive with the map update on it.. watch out for: THE SOFTWARE ON your CIC being TOO OLD TO UTILIZE USB TO UPDATE THE MAPS. SCHPENXEL HAD TO USE 2012 DVD'S.
"FAKRA" GPS antenna. (ebay, $15 or less) - but not needed if you have CCC nav already or 'CCC Prep"
Misc stuff from Radio Shack (I bought way too much stuff) - $30

So for those of us who are literally sourcing every piece from scratch, what else? For my 650i I think I need at least:

black plastic trim piece around iDrive controller ***8220;switch bezel***8221; (specific to 6 series model) ***8211; item 15 in ***8220;body hardware ***8211; console***8221; view but no part # or price? You also use this as the template to carefully open out the existing hole in the 6-series console.

Small wiring plugs (different than on CCC -need to adapt) - one at CIC/CID? The other for the new controller (part #'s?), any more?

Trim piece that goes around the CIC slot ***8220;Center bezel w/navigation system, Dark Birch***8221; (specific to match my S436 Dark Birch Fine Wood Trim), item 11 in BODY HARDWARE / INSTRUMENT PANEL / INSTRUMENT PANEL / Center bezel view MSRP $229.84, purchase for $183.87 ***8211; no part number shown.

As for the CID, I am seeing several eBay listings for just the display screen (new) for ~$350, shippig from Japan. Has anyone swapped out their bare CCC screen for one of these? Is that possible? It looks like just a few screws hold the tabs in back to the plastic trim ring, but - are all required plug connections present on that bare screen, etc...?

What else?

 

[schpenxel]

black plastic trim piece around iDrive controller ***8220;switch bezel***8221; (specific to 6 series model) ***8211; item 15 in ***8220;body hardware ***8211; console***8221; view but no part # or price? You also use this as the template to carefully open out the existing hole in the 6-series console.

51169169999 is the part number

Small wiring plugs (different than on CCC -need to adapt) - one at CIC/CID? The other for the new controller (part #'s?), any more?

61136954526 for the CID
I am not sure of the part number on the idrive controller connector--I'll try to find it tonight on mine

Trim piece that goes around the CIC slot ***8220;Center bezel w/navigation system, Dark Birch***8221; (specific to match my S436 Dark Birch Fine Wood Trim), item 11 in BODY HARDWARE / INSTRUMENT PANEL / INSTRUMENT PANEL / Center bezel view MSRP $229.84, purchase for $183.87 ***8211; no part number shown.

Do you have CCC now?

There's two parts needed, but you may already have one of them. There's the part that goes around the CIC, then there is the lower piece that goes around the seat heater buttons and all that. If you have CCC now, for the bottom half you can use what you already have (will have to disconnect the two halves on what you have now). The new upper piece has a different design that does NOT snap into the old one, but that's on purpose and is that way on cars with factory CIC. They work just fine, just a different design

51456976361 is the upper piece that goes around the CIC (in black)

For people without CCC currently, part number 51457063152 has the upper and lower setup for the CCC (this is the plain black version). You can separate these two and just use the bottom half along with the CIC upper. Not sure on a number for the lower by itself

 

[djcwardog]

CCC present in my car

I have CCC now. So the plastic trim ring around the screen is the same for CCC or CIC? If we need it, from RealOEM: ***8220;Cover, onboard monitor 8.8" 1 09/2009 65829226386 for ~$36.

I took your info post and added what I could to it from my parts/price lookup.

black plastic trim piece around iDrive controller ***8220;switch bezel***8221; - I confirm your reply of 51169169999 which comes up as ***8220;SWITCH COVER***8221; for $30.75. As depicted this is indeed what is needed.

Small wiring plugs (different than on CCC -need to adapt) - the one at the CID is 61136954526 - yes, this was one of the parts you listed at the start so that one was already covered! From RealOem this is described as ***8220;Universal socket housing uncoded***8221; 61136954526 at $3.60 for use with either: Terminal socket MQS ELA 0.2-0.5 MM² SN 61131393704 (small pins to use at ends of wiring and insert into plugs - pack of 10 for $7.49. They also list 61138366260 as a "contact" Terminal socket MQS ELA 0.75 MM²/S at $0.99 each - I got 10.

part number on the idrive controller connector _____ you will try to find it tonight on yours.

Trim piece that goes around the CIC slot ***8220;Center bezel w/navigation system, Dark Birch***8221; (specific to match my S436 Dark Birch Fine Wood Trim), From RealOEM: For vehicles with Fine wood trim S436A=Yes, 02 Decor cover for instrument panel, center BIRKE GRAU 1 09/2008 51459171191 for $199.39 (this is item #2 for CIC, in the illustration, item #3 is for non-nav and uses the little storage box - not what we are after!)

There's two parts needed. The part that goes around the CIC, then the lower piece that goes around the seat heater buttons and all that. If you have CCC now, for the bottom half you can use what you already (will have to disconnect the two halves on what you have now (this I will do - its all wood on the 650i). The new upper piece has a different design that does NOT snap into the old one, but that's on purpose and is that way on cars with factory CIC. They work just fine.

51456976361 is the upper piece that goes around the CIC (in black) - comes up as "CENTER COVER, DASHBO" - $33.40 However, if it's the same as the one already in my car for CCC, can't I just swap screens into my existing "center cover"?

For people without CCC currently, part number 51457063152 ("COVER" for $35.83) has the upper and lower setup for the CIC (this is the plain black version). You can separate these two and just use the bottom half. Not sure on a number for the lower by itself

So: in summary, this is what an order totalling $345.02 is looking like - but we still need the small connector at new iDrive controller: (Carter650i is shipping me his US-spec CIC, but I need to also source a HD screen and an iDrive controller itself)

DECOR COVER FOR INST
Brand:
ES#: 2136079Mfg#: 51459171191
More Info
If Ordered Now, Ships in 2 days $ $199.39 Free Shipping - Ground Shipping Only
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UNIVERSAL SOCKET HOUSING UNC
Brand:
ES#: 2672673Mfg#: 61136954526
More Info
If Ordered Now, Ships in 3 days $ $3.60 Free Ground Shipping Only
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Adapter Cable
Used in CIC system
Brand:
ES#: 245081Mfg#: 61119185171 If Ordered Now, Ships in 2 days $ $38.50 Free Ground Shipping Only
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SWITCH COVER
Brand:
ES#: 259029Mfg#: 51169169999
More Info
If Ordered Now, Ships in 2 days $ $31.94 Free Ground Shipping Only
×
Terminal Socket MQS - Pack Of 10
0.2-0.5mm² SN
Brand:
ES#: 2537067Mfg#: 61131393704kt
More Info
If Ordered Now, Ships in 2 days $ $7.49 Free Shipping
×
CONTACT
Brand:
ES#: 229460Mfg#: 61138366260
More Info
If Ordered Now, Ships in 2 days 10x total $ $9.90 Free Shipping ×
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USB SOCKET
Brand:
ES#: 2194690Mfg#: 84109237656
More Info
If Ordered Now, Ships in 2 days $ $26.99 Free Shipping ×
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USB Adapter Wiring Cable (THIS APPEARS TO BE ON BACK ORDER FROM ECS)
Used when installing a usb port
Brand:
ES#: 1833229Mfg#: 61129196805
More Info
If Ordered Now, Ships on Sep 25th $ $27.21 Free Shipping
Ground Shipping Only

 

[schpenxel]

I have CCC now. So the plastic trim ring around the screen is the same for CCC or CIC? I took your post and added what I could to it.

black plastic trim piece around iDrive controller "switch bezel" - no part # or price
Your reply of 51169169999 comes up as "SWITCH COVER" for $30.75. Isn't that the knob on the iDrive itself?

Small wiring plugs (different than on CCC -need to adapt) - the one at the CID is 61136954526 - OK, this was one of the parts you listed at the start so that one was already covered!

part number on the idrive controller connector _____ you will try to find it tonight on yours.

Trim piece that goes around the CIC slot "Center bezel w/navigation system, Dark Birch" (specific to match my S436 Dark Birch Fine Wood Trim), item 11 in BODY HARDWARE / INSTRUMENT PANEL / INSTRUMENT PANEL / Center bezel view MSRP $229.84, purchase for $183.87 - no part number shown.

There's two parts needed. The part that goes around the CIC, then the lower piece that goes around the seat heater buttons and all that. If you have CCC now, for the bottom half you can use what you already (will have to disconnect the two halves on what you have now (this I will do - its all wood on the 650i). The new upper piece has a different design that does NOT snap into the old one, but that's on purpose and is that way on cars with factory CIC. They work just fine.

51456976361 is the upper piece that goes around the CIC (in black) - comes up as "CENTER COVER, DASHBO" - $33.40 However, if it's the same as the one already in my car for CCC, can't I just swap screens into my existing "center cover"?

For people without CCC currently, part number 51457063152 ("COVER" for $35.83) has the upper and lower setup for the CIC (this is the plain black version). You can separate these two and just use the bottom half. Not sure on a number for the lower by itself

The plastic trim around the screen is made on to the screen, so you don't have to worry about it. If you buy a screen for a CIC unit, it comes with all the plastic sides and everything.

51169169999 is the bezel around the controller:

I'm not 100% sure how the CIC slot "center bezel" works on the 6 series (I'm assuming it's about the same?)

If you're looking at this:

http://www.getbmwparts.com/parts/20...04/BMW/645CI/?siteid=214672&vehicleid=1427486&diagram=1930380&diagramCallOut=10

Part 10 won't work. You need part 11. Not enough room for #10

realoem.com should have the part number in there somewhere

Your CCC has two slots.. CIC only has one if you want a big hole in your dash, it might work just fine.

 

[schpenxel]

I think there's a disconnect in what some of the parts are being called vs. what they actually are that is causing some misunderstandings

Basically you need the CIC unit itself, a CID monitor, an idrive controller, the plastic trim that goes over the CIC, the plastic piece that goes over the idrive controller, the electrical connector for the CID, electrical connector for idrive controller, the USB port and the cables that connect the CID to CIC and USB to CIC

then all the emulator crap, etc. is pretty much the same as my original post

Also, I went back and tried to add all the part numbers to my original post.

 

[schpenxel]

Terminal Socket MQS - Pack Of 10
0.2-0.5mm² SN
Brand:
ES#: 2537067Mfg#: 61131393704kt
More Info
If Ordered Now, Ships in 2 days $ $7.49 Free Shipping
×
CONTACT
Brand:
ES#: 229460Mfg#: 61138366260
More Info
If Ordered Now, Ships in 2 days 10x total $ $9.90 Free Shipping ×

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What are these for?

 

[djcwardog]

I think there's a disconnect in what some of the parts are being called vs. what they actually are that is causing some misunderstandings

Basically you need the CIC unit itself, a CID monitor, an idrive controller, the plastic trim that goes over the CIC, the plastic piece that goes over the idrive controller, the electrical connector for the CID, electrical connector for idrive controller, the USB port and the cables that connect the CID to CIC and USB to CIC

then all the emulator crap, etc. is pretty much the same as my original post

Also, I went back and tried to add all the part numbers to my original post.

Indeed! I was on phone w ECS and they are trying to figure out that small electrical adapter for the electrical connector for idrive controller - seems they can't figure that one out... I placed an order w ECS for everything but two pieces that would have delayed things... And ordered those two from getBMWparts...

The two items for contacts are just pins to put on bare wiring if I need to do anything with the harnesses - i.e break a pin or something (don't ask how I know about that...) Probably won't need if I am careful.

 

[schpenxel]

Gotcha--yeah I'll try to figure out that part number when I get home for you. It's a pretty simple install really.. If I hadn't been as neat about it and taken so many pictures, it could have been done in an hour or so. I never did modify the center console for the new idrive controller--that's probably the most time consuming part

 

[djcwardog]

High Res Monitors

RealOEM seems to break them all down more or less like this with what I see as 4 most common part numbers in play:

09/2009 on
65829211969

11/2008 ***8211; 09/2009
65829224346
65829193745
65829193755

Our high res 8.8***8221; monitors appear to cross-reference like this:

(From a listing) This part will fit these makes and models with these options (Interchange Part Number: 594-01076)

BMW 323i 10-11 (Sdn, Canada mkt), display screen (dash), 8.8" screen
BMW 328i 10-11 display screen (dash), 8.8" screen
BMW 328i 12 display screen (dash), Cpe, Conv and SW, 8.8" screen
BMW 335i 10-11 display screen (dash), 8.8" screen
BMW 335i 12 display screen (dash), Cpe and Conv, 8.8" screen
BMW 528i 10 display screen (dash), 8.8" screen, from 9/09
BMW 535i 10 display screen (dash), 8.8" screen, from 9/09
BMW 550i 10 display screen (dash), w/Nav sys (8.8" screen), from 9/09
BMW 650i 10 display screen (dash), w/Nav sys (8.8" screen), from 9/09
BMW M3 10-12 display screen (dash), 8.8" screen
BMW M5 10 display screen (dash), w/Nav sys (8.8" screen)
BMW M6 10 display screen (dash), w/Nav sys (8.8" screen)

Market appears to be $350 to $600 for a used one from the recyclers here in the US. Harder to figure on eBay, be careful - some European cars of later vintage ran 8.8" monitors - but NOT High Res... a few running at $300 or so did not appear to be high-res. Check the part #'s carefully. However, the one there now for $600 also turned up in my recycler search.

 

[Carter650i]

Yes the cic from the 3 series is the same as the 6 series some comes with no glass some does. I actually like the one without the glass because there's no glare. I ordered my combox today, I will add it to my cic this weekend I got it on ebay for $200 asking price is around $300 install is easy if you already have bluetooth and usb inside your center console if not than it's a pain but well worth it. hopefully I can do the coding. I also would like to add front and rear camera with the ability to switch between them using one of the programmable button on my steering wheel and of course as soon as you put the car in reverse without loosing my PDC however I cant seems to find a code video module as they all confusing and stuff and I cant think of nice and way to mount the cameras