If that's a US spec one, then yes, I think that's normal. Does it work??

 

No it's not US it's Europe!! That's what so crazy about it. It's weird

 

Try checking the box--When I tried to force the IBOC tuner options to aktiv on mine, that HD check box showed up too, but it never would work

Did you have Sirus or sirius retrofit before the CIC?

 

I checked the box, but every time I start the car I have to check it again.. yes I had sirius prior to the retrofit.

 

by the way i will send you them files tonight.

 

Oops, I said Sirius but meant HD radio..

Thanks on the files. Will take a look through them

 

BAM, combox, telematics, $145!

Sold as not working (seller had no way to test it but came out of working vehicle). Can't beat that, IF it works, lol. We shall see soon enough

I just hope the software on it isn't too new as they started putting a stop to a lot of the "fun" stuff in the later versions

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Also, on the Sirius radio front, I got it working, EXCEPT I can't get over channel 26 for some reason. It just skips from 26 to 183, then has like 100+ channels for 183, but I can't go to any of them

Any ideas on this one? I am thinking I may have to update the Sirius module to newer software but I'm guessing at this point

For anyone else adding Sirius to their BMW--I literally just stuck the Sirius antenna under the dash (as far towards the front of the car as I could get it--pulled CID screen to get access) and it has worked just fine, even when driving on roads with thick trees to the south. I imagine this would be even better for ones without the center speaker up there

 

Update: Got the Sirius issue fixed! I ended up using Winkfp (for the first time ever by the way) to flash to the latest software I had (V49) and all the channels showed right up. Awesome! Not sure if it was something wrong with what was on there, or it was just too old and for some reason needed to be updated to take into account the XM/Sirius merger or something like that

Winkfp wasn't QUITE as scary as I thought it'd be to use, however, given how small the files for the Sirius update were vs. most other modules, anyone who updates any important computers without a power supply is absolutely insane. Even just the Sirius module took a good 5 minutes to update and I was worried the whole time I was going to bump the USB cable or something on accident and disconnect it / brick the Sirius module

Anyways. One more thing down. Combox will be here Friday. Now if my connectors would just get here so I can finish my plug and play harness.

 

Can't wait for updates on the combox. I was under impression that it was the software inside the CIC that disabled free 6nr without fsc voice not the combox.

What I also wonder is where all these retrofit shops get their hardware. I can't find anything on eBay for a decent price and yet they have stock.

 

Eastern Europe probably, lol

 

Also, you need to make sure you're searching worldwide on eBay and not just north america

 

Look what came in

 

Also, my connectors for the plug and play combox harness will be here Wednesday, finally. I am going to build three harnesses, in case anyone wants one.

 

CIC in and Working!

It took awhile to get another CIC, but this one came from getOEMParts (Tischer BMW) as an exchange unit - p/n ending in 9616. Having returned my first CIC already I will not be able to return a core but whatever...

I also got my dark birch trim plate as well as my Pasternack cables - three boxes within an hour... A fun Friday! It was easy with the right parts... Swap out the old stuff per this DIY, move wires over, etc... Put the pre-LCI climate controller into the new LCI trim - small gap around buttons is fine by me... Plug the connectors into the back of CIC and CID. Note well that there is no FM antenna (black FAKRA) lead, so expect to hear just hiss... Note also that my unit has logos on the back for HD Radio along with SiriusXM - but only the single blue FAKRA GPS lead... As I have both of those as external devices already, I will run my new black FAKRA from the rear to the dash for the radio.

So, I energized the system and - yes! I see a warning message on my screen but off center, not aligned. At least all the stuff is talking...except the new iDrive controller still is inop. No worries as I then updated the VO...

Being now in my 20 minute wait after powering the car down - after completing changes to VO: new build date is #0909, added $6VA, FA_wrote to CAS and LMA, then default coded CIC. Still had the funky screen, so I default coded the CID - bam - solid menu screen, so sharp and clear. Next was the TCU - default code. Seeing my new iDrive controller not working, default coded ZBE2 and shut 'er down.

When I power up I hope to see more goodness. If not, what's next to do to tidy this up and get my iDrive working with the new CIC?

 

I actually haven't switched over to the new controller yet, so I won't be of much help on this one

 

Trying it w old controller...

So, my first day working with the new gear...

I was able to easily (re)make up an end for a FAKRA RG-174 coax cable (parts from Pasternack - real pros, quick service, solid packaging) and access my diversity antenna amp in the left rear sail panel. I unplugged the existing black FAKRA Jack, plugged in my new cable, and snaked it down the left side behind the trim, into center console, then on up to the dash, Once I plugged it into the back of the CIC, hiss became good music. For any who read this who share my OEM lack of an FM antenna lead behind the dash, the terms "jack" and "plug" in FAKRA-speak (these would be Type A - black plastic pieces...) are a bit confusing. What you need here is a "jack" at each end of your cable - a female receiving piece at each end to snap over the male piece protruding from the back of the head unit (CCC or CIC - both have an antenna lead), and the same style of male connector protruding from the diversity antenna amplifier. This is quite easy to do as there as there is only 1 FAKRA connector on that little box. I had my cables made up for 5m (longest that BMW used to stock), but for this particular application, 4m or maybe even 3m would have worked. No worries, excess cable is coiled up neatly and is out of sight. The price (these were ~$35 and I have an extra one in blue - if interested...) does not change much for adding cable length, so I erred on going long. Of course, once I realized that I would need to cut one end to put on the second "female" piece, I cut enough to make up a "gender changing" cable should I need such in the future. Just order yours with two female ends to avoid this fun... Yes, I also have a small collection of bare plugs and jacks for later projects, spare, whatever - they were cheap enough...

Despite trying several coding combos, things seem to work best when I just replace the actual #0906 in the VO with our "constructive" build date of #0909 to the VO and leave out the $6VA. With that in, my Satellite Radio disappeared as a listening choice, even though I confirmed that after the FA Write and default coding, the car (CIC) was indeed default coded "SDARS_in..." to "Exbox" as it should have. For my car, $609 was already there.

Trying now to use old controller w the new CIC but the ZBE2 module is not responding to my efforts. COAPI 2041 errors, etc... Seems to indicate a need for new datens, yet Chris sent me the v49 datens not long ago and the whole car reflects updates as of July 2013, save just a few modules which stayed at the 2006 levels. My old controller (with two buttons under the dial) works to a point, but when scrolling the dial goes to the very top or very bottom of a menu screen without the possibility of choosing intermediate selections on the screen. Plus, I get a warning triangle that my right rear tail light is malfunctioning, then a minute later, same for the left. This all seems to point to a need to ensure that the latest datens are in the software. I will also utilize the before and after UIF text files I saved to see about a need to flash the controller?

Here was yesterday afternoon's module info after the install and coding for #0909 along with adding $6VA...

I D E N T I F I C A T I O N
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Date: 13.09.2013 13:33:54
Model: E60
Scope: all control module
JobStatus: OKAY
Quantity: 25
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ADR Gen. name JobStatus SGBD GROUP Part No. VarI DiaI CoI HwI SW-No FSV SW-No OSV SW-No MCV SW-No res Date Supplier Name
00 ZGM OKAY KGM_60 D_ZGM 9221210 4D56 0BD0 5 00 9.95.12 3.5.10 0.16.108 0.0.0 05.09.2006 Loewe => Lear Karosserie Gatewaymodul
01 SIM/SGM OKAY ACSM60 D_SIM 9172018 4D51 0B20 34 12 44.50.0 4.0.0 0.20.182 0.0.0 30.08.2006 Autoliv Airbag-Elektronik
02 SZL OKAY SZL_60 D_SZL 9115166 4E42 01C8 34 07 35.0.0 4.0.1 0.19.163 0.0.0 31.08.2006 Kostal Schaltzentrum Lenksäule
12 DME/DDE OKAY N62_TUE D_MOTOR 7566706 3551 0020 17 01 255.255.255 255.255.255 0.14.122 255.255.255 25.08.2006 Bosch Motorelektronik ME 9 8 Zylinder N62 TUE
20 RDC OKAY 6782800 4547 1000 0 02 10.1.0 3.10.3 0.18.56 0.0.0 18.08.2006 BERU Electronics
23 ARS OKAY ARS_70 D_ARS 6786139 505A 0252 18 32 8.12.0 5.6.0 0.23.146 8.12.0 31.08.2006 Temic Aktive Rollstabilisierung
27 PGS OKAY PGS_65_2 D_PGS 9134707 4B5A 0261 4 00 9.16.0 3.3.0 0.12.30 0.0.0 01.09.2006 Siemens Passive Go System
29 DSC OKAY DXC8_P D_DSC 6791109 4D52 0BC3 12 03 5.21.0 0.0.0 0.16.93 60.41.67 25.01.2006 Bosch Dynamische Stabilitätskontrolle Plus
37 AMP OKAY AMP_60 D_AMP 9181745 464E 0670 3 A22 8.9.0 3.1.3 0.9.114 0.0.0 28.08.2006 Harman Kardon Top HIFI Verstärker
40 CAS OKAY CAS D_CAS 9147203 5341 06A0 6 C3 2.2.5 3.3.0 0.0.0 0.0.0 01.09.2006 Siemens Car Access System 2
41 DWA OKAY DWA_63 D_DWA 6965588 484A 0750 5 07 5.15.0 3.3.0 0.16.87 0.0.0 06.07.2006 Gemel DWA Sirene und Neigungsgeber
44 SHD/MDS OKAY SD_KWP D_SHD 9137055 4858 0351 7 C1 5.4.5 3.2.3 0.11.172 5.4.2 08.07.2004 Siemens Multi Drive Schiebehebedach
45 RLS OKAY RLS_E65 D_RLS 6980020 4A4B 0360 6 72 6.3.40 3.2.4 0.10.158 99.5.0 07.07.2005 Kostal Regen- Lichtsensor
57 NVE OKAY NVE_65 D_NVE 9165000 4D42 01B0 5 05 229.0.32 3.3.50 0.16.117 4.2.57 23.03.2006 Autoliv Night Vision Steuergerät
60 KOMBI OKAY KOMB60 D_KOMBI 9197123 4855 06E0 6 04 105.81.3 3.3.0 0.16.109 0.0.0 05.09.2006 VDO Intrumentenkombi
62 MOSTGW OKAY 9239242 5643 10E0 0 00 6.7.12 6.0.7 0.0.0 0.0.0 30.05.2013 Becker
63 MMI/CCC OKAY 9253418 5555 10F0 19 00 6.11.7 6.0.7 0.0.0 0.0.0 30.05.2013 Becker
64 PDC OKAY PDC_65_2 D_PDC 9185139 4C57 0421 2 01 9.15.0 3.3.30 0.12.95 0.0.0 04.09.2006 Valeo Park Distance Control
65 BZM/SZM OKAY SZM_60 D_BZM 9163848 4653 0990 3 07 6.11.0 3.3.60 0.21.26 0.0.0 10.04.2006 Eaton Schaltzentrum Mittelkonsole
70 LM OKAY 9203082 5352 0D60 53 06 4.60.0 4.0.5 0.16.112 0.0.0 07.09.2006 Loewe => Lear
72 KBM OKAY KBM_60 D_KBM 9176069 4554 0730 8 C5 7.8.0 3.2.4 0.22.250 0.0.0 22.06.2006 Siemens Karosserie Basis Modul
73 CID OKAY CID_90 D_CID 9211969 4941 0A30 15 39 153.69.16 4.2.0 0.31.71 0.0.0 03.02.2009 Alpine Zentrales Info Display
78 KLIMA OKAY IHKA60 D_KLIMA 9122399 474E 0791 9 09 5.19.255 3.3.20 0.16.105 0.0.0 31.07.2006 Preh Klimabedienteil
92 VIRTSG92 OKAY 9180490 5749 0000 0 31 0.0.0 0.0.0 0.0.0 0.0.0 30.05.2013 Becker
A0 CCC OKAY 9239246 5651 1100 0 00 6.7.12 6.0.7 0.0.0 0.0.0 30.05.2013 Becker
=================================================================

I added the bold to show the 2013 dates... Seems that when I ran this the other day with the CCC in place I had mostly 2013 dates for software - from the trip to dealer for s/w update.

Despite having an emulator in place, nav is grayed out and voice command is inop. Maybe I should remove the emulator while I troubleshoot the iDrive controller? Of course, seeing as this exchange CIC came from a BMW dealer, perhaps they are reflashed in the refurb process, and any saved FSC's (for nav, voice, etc...) are lost? That would explain emulator in and still a gray nav choice...

 

So, my first day working with the new gear...

I was able to easily (re)make up an end for a FAKRA RG-174 coax cable (parts from Pasternack - real pros, quick service, solid packaging)

Of course, seeing as this exchange CIC came from a BMW dealer, perhaps they are reflashed in the refurb process, and any saved FSC's (for nav, voice, etc...) are lost? That would explain emulator in and still a gray nav choice...

What tools did you need to make that cable?

I have a feeling you are right on the saved FSC's.. which is not so good

 

So you have good sources for unlocking things for me - FSC and maps? How do I tell if it has maps or anything else on the hard drive? I have the 2013.2 nav DVD's from dealer that worked w the CCC.... Use same ones to update it?

 

I have a good source for FSC codes for map updates only--I don't think there IS a source for FSC codes for activating nav or voice other than BMW (if there were there wouldn't be a need for the emulator..)

The DVD's you have won't work on the CIC system, but they can be downloaded easy enough off most torrent sites.

On the FSC codes to activate nav/voice--AFAIK there is no way to do it other than to buy the code from BMW if it has no code on it at all right now. Is returning that unit and buying a used one an option? There may be a way to do it that is hush hush that involves manually installing the FSC code from another car, then letting the emulator make it work. I have absolutely no idea how to do it though, and have only read hints about it on other forums

 

Folks,

To avoid confusion there are two threads running that are now on the same issues: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=715166&page=2 is the other thread.

 

This thread is pure gold. You guys have got me excited about something I dont plan to do for months!!! :thumbup:

Sent from BimmerApp mobile app

 

Kind of random, but I found the connector for the idrive connector under the BMW part number 61138380696

Previously had only listed the Tyco #

 

Pics from today below. I was bored and decided to take a look at the TCU and compare the connections to the combox. My last connector for the tcu/combox retrofit wiring harness will be here on Wednesday--I almost just went forward without it, but then decided to just wait

 

Which cables are required for the retrofit?

 

 

I will be posting a complete DIY with pictures and part numbers once I have everything together.

 

I have been digging into this as well. I want to replace my TCU with a combox (not in trunk but behind the rear seat on a 650i), and I want do the 6FL into the console at the same time. My car has just the single aux-in jack as OEM. I understand that those who do the full-on 6NF baseplate with phone cradle in the console also route another USB (and aux-in?) cable to a connector on the combox. Not sure that I need the cradle and the phone-specific snap-in piece as I like having the storage area, but I would like to be able to get all the 6NR (ConnectedDrive) and 6NF audio/video goodness - and the signal booster for the cell antenna - by plugging a cable into my phone which rests inside the console storage area. Is this possible or must I source the cradle etc. to do this?

Plus, 6NF does not work w iPhone 5? I plan to have a 5 or a 5S soon... (5C is a colored-up repackaged 5 so I read).

 

And the magic connectors came in today from Kufatec from the plug and play combox retrofit harness. Will finish the harnesses tonight

 

wow so much progress while I was gone. I am very impress. @ schpenxel I still have the files on my work station in the garage but honest truth I have been so busy lately. I don't remember the last time I went in there.
I will be taking my car combox apart and takes pictures and video over the weekend possibly tomorrow with the new iPhone 5s because a lot of people are contacting me regarding the combox. stay tune. @dcjwardog I'm happy to hear that you have a working CIC!!!

 

Thanks! I am going to be trying to pick one of those up tomorrow as well!